“What I don't like about office Christmas parties is looking for a job the next day.” - Phyllis Diller
Hello all. Welcome back to
The Disciplinary Couple’s Club. Our
weekly gathering of men and women who are in, or would like to be in, a
Domestic Discipline relationship.
I hope you all had a good week and, for those of you in the U.S., a happy Thanksgiving. Ours was pretty chill, but not necessarily in a good way. I’m still laid up and under significant activity constraints. I’m not banned from travel or longer car trips, but it’s not very practical right now either. One of my siblings had a major surgery the same week I had my less major one. Although I got to see both kids, they work both work in professions in which they have rotating holiday coverage responsibilities. All that meant no extended family gatherings and only a scaled-down immediate family get-together.
Anne and I did get the house mostly decorated for the Christmas season, and I managed to contribute at least a little, while listening to Christmas music.
I started feeling at least a few glimmerings of holiday spirit, even though this one is, in many ways, more challenging than most.
As much as I love this season (and, I really do have a thing for Christmas in general), it does tend to be challenging, doesn’t it? At least that seems to be the conventional wisdom. And, despite my love for the season, in the past it is fair to say that it seem to involve concentrated periods of bad behavior, resulting in more spankings than is our norm.
For me, it’s definitely not about generalized holiday stress. As I said, I really like Christmas, including believe it or not, gift shopping, which I know contributes to some people’s stress.
Back when I was working, holiday parties were a big contributor to my bad behavior. My firm usually had a big, somewhat swanky, very boozy holiday party. Anne’s workgroup usually had some kind of potluck. And, work and social friends hosted their own gatherings.
It seems like that source of both holiday merriment and holiday stress has really tapered down since with both retired. To the point that, despite my introverted proclivities and the fact that we’ve never been big party hosters, I’ve been thinking maybe we need to start our own holiday party tradition. Although holiday party season definitely was contributor to both bad behavior and stress, I feel like it’s tapered a little too much.
Others get in trouble for family arguments, particularly about politics, which seems to be part and parcel of holiday gatherings. Based on the comments last week, a few of you are already off to a bad start on that score.
I’m sure DD couples have different ways of dealing with holiday stress and gatherings and the tendency for some of us to behave worse or let our bad attitudes get the better of us during this season.
Although there wasn’t a huge difference, I think Anne did sometimes cut me some slack over the holidays, recognizing that it wasn’t entirely my fault that I’d give into temptation when there was just so much of it around the holidays. It was also the case that some of the parties where I was most prone to over-indulging were given by her boozy friends.
Yet, probably because there were so many opportunities for misbehavior, the number of spankings I received would spike over the holidays and usually go down as I started working on those resolutions in January. And, Anne’s tolerance definitely knew some limits, and I myself generally recognized that the fact that there were so many temptations probably suggested there should be more strict guardrails, not less.
There also were a handful of times we experimented with “preventative” spankings during this period. In the early days of this blog, I wasn’t wild about the whole concept of preventative spankings. I felt like a spanking couldn’t really be about accountability or punishment if it preceded any bad behavior.
However, I’ve come around on that point. I now recognize that preventative spankings do modify our behavior, and that’s really the entire goal of Domestic Discipline. Also, it’s not like preventative spankings are gratuitous or random. Rather, they are generally used in situations that have proven, time and time again, to present an elevated risk of bad behavior.
How do the holidays affect your Domestic Discipline relationship? Do you misbehave more often? If so, give us some specifics. In what specific ways does your behavior deteriorate? Over-indulging in alcohol? If so, is it a problem in and of itself, or is it that it encourages you to say or do things you shouldn’t?
Or, is it more about general attitude problems than about bad behavior?
Where is the misbehavior most likely to happen? Office parties? Parties with friends? Family gatherings? Shopping excursions? During holiday travel?
How are the behavior or attitude problems dealt with? Are you cut some slack, given that the sheer number of parties and stressors might lead anyone to misbehave more than usual? Or, are the holidays treated with increased strictness and severity?
How would you like them to be dealt with? Do you think your wife should cut you some slack in the name of holiday cheer? Or, do you think she should tighten the reins so you’re less likely to misbehave or let a bad attitude spiral? From some of the comments last week, it seems like attitude problems do proliferate around the holidays. What is your wife's approach to generally bad attitude issues during the holidays? Does she take a tough line, or does attitude in the absence of other bad behavior tend to go unpunished?
Don’t feel confined to this specific set of questions. Talk to us in general about how the holiday season influences your DD regimen or how you think holiday misbehavior should be dealt with or prevented. Also, please share any especially memorable holiday fails and the associated discipline you received, or should have received.
Have a great week.










Owing to the argument that we had about our respective posts, Miss C. Felt my response to the second strapping was another spanking offense. Rarely in 5 decades of dd have i been punished in 3 days. Wonder if any of the other readers have has an issues around posting here. BTW very sore
ReplyDeleteI can't speak for readers, but my wife does read the blog, so I'm always aware that whatever I write, she will see and may react to.
DeleteFor us it's such a busy time with lots to do , regular vists/visitors and fatique that it's usually about the quietest time of the year for DD although normal service will usually resume early in the new year!
ReplyDeleteYou seem to be the counter to my assumption that DD activity cranks up this time of year.
DeleteWe keep things the same. Something usually develops on its own …. Feeliing out of sorts “ today. No particular reason. I was just spanked last week. Sometimes another paddling cures that. I’m not sure if it will work and afraid to approach her. JR
ReplyDelete"Something usually develops on its own."
DeleteAin't that the truth?
J. tended to work long hours and had things after work, which meant he wasn't around much to do things leading to DD (or at least not many that I knew about). It was different during the holidays though! He seemed to do a lot when he was around!
ReplyDeleteL.
Like Dan, I actually do enjoy Christmas, especially the lights and music. I do have a problem with all the Christ stuff, especially the virgin birth and other such nonsense. Maybe that is because I can't ignore how our nation is rapidly moving towards becoming more anti science, anti intellectual, anti vax, and anti education all the time. That said, I do feel grateful for the many good friends and family in my life. Because I have been pretty diligent about keeping the beer to one pint a day, I haven't been getting any more spankings than usual, which is about one a week. I have plenty of "boozy" friends, but they don't influence me to drink any more than my limit. It really has made an amazing difference cutting back, as when I was just drinking as much as I felt like, I did a lot of stuff that would get me in trouble. Also, my sleep has improved a lot, and that makes a huge difference.
ReplyDeleteI think one reason I've always found it hard to place stricter limits on alcohol is I really *don't* feel that much better when I cut back. I've gone close to a month completely dry, and I didn't feel that much different. I'm such a chronically bad sleeper, I've kind of given up on ever really fixing it. Though, honestly, since retiring, my bingeing has dropped on it's own, to the point that I'll often go a week without drinking at all, and it's usually down to a drink or two at dinner when we go to a restaurant. But, in the month or two before this medical procedure I felt like it was creeping back up again. Once it's possible again, I may ask her to start coming down on it more strictly.
DeleteI'm a big fan of Christmas lights. I also, believe it or not, actually shopping for presents. I enjoy feeling like I succeeded in finding something that really fits a particular person.
She hasn't done many preventative spankings in the past, but they had the desired outcome the 2 times she used them, so it seems likely she will give me another one before another family get together this Christmas. There is something very compelling about her ordering one without any input from me, reminding me that she has the authority to do so.
ReplyDeleteWe've only done preventatives a couple of times, but they definitely were an attention getter. Anne has this bad habit of asking me, "Do you need . . ." It would be so much stronger, and would aid consistency, if she just ordered one when SHE thinks I need one, without as you say, any input from me.
DeleteIf improving behavior is the goal, a preventive or reminder spanking certainly seems like a good and effective idea! Graham
DeleteIt has taken a long time for us both to realize our DD works much better when she makes all the decisions about when to spank, without asking me if I need one. Her having complete authority about our DD is really the biggest turn on for me. I constantly obsess over every detail, while she is much more practical and grounded about it all. She has good intuation and common sense. Sometimes she will choose not to spank for every rule broken, and other times she may surprise me, by order a spanking for something I didn't feel deserved punishment. It's completely up to her, and I am happy to accept whatever she decides, even if I don't agree with it. My intention is to encourage her, and support her efforts to hold me accountable. My need to be taken in hand is still puzzling to me, but after questioning it for years, I now just accept it.
DeleteI wouldn't say I'm "happy to accept whatever she decides", but I do think that's how it works best for us, and I think I'm most satisfied with our DD relationship when I am the least in control of it.
DeleteHi and a Happy Holiday season to everyone. One Christmas tradition has been carried on during the nearly 30 years of FLR living. I get a Christmas Day spanking sort of as a gift. A mix of a ‘good boy’ spanking and maintenance spanking. Don’t get the wrong idea, we still practice DD in our 24/7 FLR and any misbehavior will be dealt with by a sound discipline spanking. This includes spankings while out or visiting homes of others. Most always this is followed with another spanking upon returning home. Some of these occurrences have been related here on this blog. Since the drinking has been eliminated from my life for health reasons, it is mostly poor behavior toward others that spark a warranted punishment spanking.
ReplyDeleteMy ‘good boy’ Christmas Day spanking is light hearted and both given and received in that context. None the less, my bright red bottom lasts for several hours afterwards. Again, Happy Holidays to everyone.
Spanked when out? Anyone else know you are being spanked?
DeleteIs this Spanked Cowboy? The content suggests it might be, but it was posted as Anonymous. I have probably asked tis before, but when spanked while visiting the homes of others, are they too in this lifestyle or something like it?
DeleteYes, it was my posting and I don’t know why it went as anonymous. I know I am very late with this answer, but we are away from home and being visited by friends. Very little time to be on line. My answer to both Dan and Miss C’s husband is both ways. There have been times when everyone else present is involved in the spanko or DD lifestyle. On those occasions, I am spanked in front of anyone present. Either nude or at least bare bottom. A few times there have been vanilla folks present. My gal took me to an adjacent room for my discipline spanking. I am sure the sound made it clear to everyone, I was being spanked, but nobody else saw it.
DeleteThe Holidays are hard for me for a number of reasons. Family is always hard hers and mine. My mind tends to wander alot this time of the year. She as always ignored it until this year. I have been really guilty of not taking care of my things and recently had to make a couple of trips back to eating establishments to retrieve things I have left at the table and then there is the matter of bei ng distracted and not listening to her giving me something to do and I sit down and forget to obey because my mind was on something else. It caught up with me today and I was given a very long paddeling
ReplyDeleteI am notorious for leaving my credit card at restaurants, to the point that when I would pick up the check at get-togethers with my team at work, they took to opening the little folder with the bill when we got up from the table. I also walked out and left a brand new iPad on my seat. It was gone by the time I went back. I do think DD can help with some of those things that come from pure inattention. It's one reason I asked Anne to come down hard on carelessness. I just felt like it was becoming a bigger problem. Or, maybe it had always been a problem but I finally got frustrated enough to ask her to deal with it.
DeleteSo today I got a hard, long strapping for a number of misdemeanours that have taken place during the past couple of weeks and because we are going to the first of the Christmas drinks parties tonight. She said she wanted to ensure that I knew she was nervous about my potential behaviour but that she was ready to step up to the challenge. I have a habit of overindulging and then staying up past normal bedtime…!
ReplyDeleteWe’ll see how effective it is … TB
I go back and forth regarding whether I miss holiday parties, since we've scaled back so much on those post-retirement. I did have fun at them back in the day, but they also wore me down.
DeleteI'm getting the cane tonight. So, I have to get my cpr training done for my job, and i was late for my class and have to pay a $50 fee to reschedule it. Also, I lost my wallet last week, and I wasn't punished for it because it was the first time I've made this mistake, but I was told I was on thin ice, and making this costly mistake today is just too much. I'm pretty scared. I do think holidays have made me feel a bit like i'm on vacation and might explain why I wasn't acting more carefully lately. It's been about two weeks since my last spanking. I'm pretty upset, but I can't say I don't deserve it. - JS
ReplyDeleteOh also I wanted to mention something to you because I read your articles on safewords. So, I have one, but I was using it a bit too much honestly, just to get a small break during a spanking sometimes because I find them so painful, and I wasn't even really consciously using it I was just blurting it out. So, I suggested some time ago, and it's now the case, that using my safeword means that the punishment stops but will be restarted from the beginning within 48 hours, and when I'm ready I have to beg for it to be started from the beginning. Since we implemented that rule, I haven't actually used my safeword because I'm too scared to have the punishment start over, and overall we're both much more satisfied with the relationship. Also, I now cry more easily during spankings because I feel more out of control, which is embarrassing but useful I guess. I honestly am very impressed you take the beatings you talk about so stoically - JS
DeleteI think that's a reasonable approach to safewords. I've thought about asking my wife to implement something similar with respect to trying to delay a spanking. Even if I have a good excuse, the default rule should be that if a spanking is delayed, I get two instead of one.
DeleteI'm not totally stoic. There is plenty of grunting, groaning and yelps. But, I can't cry. That's not really about stoicism; I just can't seem to cry.
Oof two might be a lot but I guess if that's what it takes. What kind of excuses are you giving that are working, so that I might try them? haha -JS
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