Saturday, March 4, 2017

The Forum - Vol. 196 - Tools of the Trade

If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.  - Abraham Maslow

Hello all. Welcome back to The Forum - Disciplined Husbands & Disciplinary Wives.  Our weekly gathering of men and women who are in, or interested in being in, Domestic Discipline or Female Led relationships.

Well, we've had some fairly heavy conversations lately.  I hope I didn't burn a bunch of people out, or finally offend them to their core, but it's a bad sign when even stalwarts like Anna and Peter don't comment.  So, I'll lighten it up a little this week and go in a more practical direction.  We've done it before, but we have a lot of new folks visiting each week and, as Darren has repeatedly said, some of the couples who are newer to the Domestic Discipline lifestyle can't get enough practical advice.

So, this week, let's talk about tools.  Implements.  Those things She uses to blister our bottoms.  We've talked before about things like "most feared," but let's each talk about those implements we each get spanked, strapped, paddled, etc. with most often, and the "advantages" and "disadvantages" of each from the perspective of getting her point across.  Here are tools my wife and I have used, and my succinct thoughts on each category:
  • Hairbrush: Iconic, but basically worthless. 
  • Bath brush: Totally different animal from a hairbrush.  Hurts like a mother&%$#@! 
  • Wooden paddles:  Something for everyone.  Iconic and, unlike a hairbrush, can hurt like hell.
  • Belts: Can be effective, but she has to swing really, really hard.
  • Leather straps: Generally much more painful than a belt, ranging from mild to OMG!
  • Loopy Johnny:  Stings pretty damn badly.  Leaves welts like a cane.
  • Rubber straps: If these don't get your attention, nothing will.
  • Cane: Has never worked well for us, but I'm not sure why.
It's interesting how with some of these implements, seemingly slight changes in weight or length can make a huge difference.  Same with quality.  Like with good tools in any trade, you get what you pay for.  Looking at them in a little more depth:

Brushes



Many of us probably came to DD, or were first attracted to it, when we read stories or saw drawings depicting OTK spankings with a determined woman whaling away with a wooden hairbrush.  The thing is, all those scary drawings and stories notwithstanding, it just isn't a very effective instrument.  Most women would need Amazon-like strength and stamina to make any real impression on any but the most pain-adverse misbehaving husband.


Now, one can buy real paddles in the approximate size and shape of a hairbrush.  If made from thick, heavy wood, they can be quite painful. And easy to fit in a purse those impromptu "corrections" when out on the town.

And then there is . . . the dreaded bathbrush.  I would be going weak in the knees knowing a determined and pissed off wife was walking up the stair with that in hand.

Compared to the hairbrush, it is just a different animal altogether, capable of delivering a truly painful, butt blistering experience.

Paddles


Then there is the instrument that haunts many a former schoolboy or fratboy's nightmares -- the wooden paddle.  They too come in all shapes and sizes.  From small "spankers" good for OTK action and for concentrating on one cheek:


To the more fearsome "Board of Education" or "fraternity" style paddles:

After ten-plus years in this lifestyle, I'm still learning things about paddles.  I used to assume that big, heavy paddles hurt the most.  Not true.  Recently, I decided to sink some money into a couple of really nice custom paddles.  The person I ordered them from asked me right away whether it would be used by a man or a woman, because some women just can't swing a really heavy paddle with a lot of force.  It was better to go with something a little smaller (14 - 15"), not extremely thick, but made of a very hard wood.  I can testify from very painful experience, that was very wise advice.  The newer ones we are now using are much, much more painful than some of the larger paddles made from lighter (and cheaper) wood, such as ash.  One caveat with paddles -- I think they tend to be better used at the end of a long session, not at the beginning, because they can make me go numb after a while, thereby defeating the purpose of a hard disciplinary spanking.  Also, as for leather paddles -- totally worthless for anything but mild "funishment" scenes.

Leather Straps


Like paddles, leather straps come in all shapes and sizes.  For couples new to disciplinary spankings, by all means, start with a leather belt, but I think many couples graduate beyond them fairly quickly.  I realize they can be effective in some positions (face down on a bed, with a very vigorous downward swing) but many are too light, and she has to deliver a really serious swing even with heavier belts in order for it to have much real impact.

Real leather punishment straps are entirely different.  They are usually made from thick "harness" leather -- much heaver and more rigid.  The one my wife uses on me most often is similar to the 6th from the left in the picture above.  While not as "off the charts" painful as some of her other instruments, it definitely can get the job done when swung with purpose.  We did, by the way, try something like that big boy in the middle -- the long one with holes.  It's called a "prison strap."  While it is the centerpiece of one of my strongest spanking memories (early on in our DD relationship, she called me at work and ordered me to come home at lunch for a strapping, then sent me back to work to sit the rest of the afternoon on a very sore bottom), it was just too long and clumsy to handle safely and effectively.


Then there is this nasty little variant on a strap.  For those unfamiliar, it is called a "loopy johnny." They come in different varieties, including single and multiple loops and different materials.  It may not look that threatening, but it delivers the proverbial "sting like a hornets nest." Definitely not for the faint of heart.

 

Which brings us to . . . rubber straps.  I said last week that we had acquired some tools that left me truly dreading her spanking sessions.  A large rubber strap like the one on the left is what I was talking about.  It is just extraordinarily painful, and oddly unlike any leather strap.  The pain penetrates and radiates more than any leather strap, and it's far denser and less pliable.  It's like a very nasty cross between the flexible "sting" of a strap and the unforgiving "thud" of a thick paddle -- really the worst of both worlds. Worse yet, I find that it does not numb the bottom nearly as quickly as a wooden paddle.  If there is one tool I wish I had never bought for her, that one is it.  The one on the right is in some ways even nastier.  It has more sting and less thud, kind of like (I imagine) a really serious caning, but she largely stopped using it because it its small width had a tendency to break the skin.


Now, as I've discussed before, we have largely given up on that other most iconic punishment instrument, the cane.  While it may the bane of every English schoolboy, for some reason my wife just has not been able to figure out how to use one in a way that really hurts very much.  We're still not sure whether it is some deficiency in the canes we have tried, or some issue with her stance, swing, follow-through, etc.

Well, there is my overly long discourse on some tool options.  How do you rate those you have tried?  Are there some that are especially good at helping make her point?  Others that she shouldn't waste her time and energy?

As always, if you are new to this Forum, please go to the Guestbook (tab above) and tell us a little about your DD or FLR lifestyle or aspirations.

I hope you have a great week.

51 comments:

  1. For OTK and on-hands-and-knees-on-the-bed punishment, my wife and I recently purchased this plastic hairbrush:

    https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/luxor-blueberry-collection-cushioned-paddle-brush/1016345270?Keyword=blueberry

    As you can see, I'm 'Feeling Blue' when she applies it on me!

    It's certainly painful, and my wife is comfortable dealing out a hundred swats with it, but I do feel it's 'endurable'.

    For our bent-over-the-kitchen-counter sessions, she'll use a foot-long, flat wooden spatula/turner. I find it much harder to hold position when she's expressing her affection with that one!
    CrimsonKing

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    1. I think I really do have the proverbial "lead butt." We've tried things like plastic brushes, and they typically break long before I feel more than a slightly uncomfortable warming sensation. We haven't tried kitchen implements like spatulas or heavy spoons.

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    2. The kitchen was where our DD began - I approached her, naked, for some affection when she was otherwise occupied. Instead I got four sharp swats with the kitchen spoon! That was the aha! moment for us both, and I think it'll always be a disciplinary touchstone for us.
      CrimsonKing

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    3. being on a farm--we have plenty of stuff to get spanked with--While a spanking is very infrequent it sometimes does work fine for us---I just pick up some sort of stick from a lot of junk in the barn and tool shed---I am not a happy guy when I am carrying it in to take a spanking from---She deserves to vent her anger for certain stuff so no argument for me---Only once with s real skinny long stick and it cured me of anything as skinny as that---what ever I choose it hurts, when I am getting it and I am swearing "Never again" In reality it means "Not for a long while" I never got a spanking I did not totally deserve---Its good we are on a farm as I ma a total spanking wus with a lot of loud "I'm sorry" "It hurts way too much"

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  2. We keep our implements in an airplane-carry on type rolling suitcase, as we attend parties about once a month,and this entry prompted me to take inventory.
    3 hairbrushes, useless on me.
    1 lollipop leather paddle, ineffective.
    3 bath brushes, from 10" to 18", mostly effective.
    2 leather tawses. Merry is still on a learning curve to use use them effectively. Last time, she snapped it back, and hit herself.
    19 paddles, different shapes and sizes.
    Usually, the heavier, the better her results, such as
    Bonebreaker, 18" with 12" x 1.75" impact surface
    Mr Big, 17.5", 13.5" x 5.75 IS
    Pizza, 14" 6"x8" IS
    Big Red, 20" 14" x 3.5" IS
    Zombie Killer, solid bamboo, 23.75" 17.75x1.75" IS
    Spoons
    7, of which 2 are heavy enough to get my attention
    7 canes....
    2 of them Delrin, 16" and 18", good for close up and detail work that she likes and I don't
    24.5" cane/crop. And
    29" bamboo cane,
    Which she has learned to use effectively.

    I've never felt a rubber strap. Now I am curious.
    (once I was curious about sjamboks. After 2 different sessions with them, I got that out of my system)
    Loopy Johnny, I felt once in a private party. My butt hurt enough already, it was just one more thing.
    You did not mention Lexan paddles, which we don't have, either. Something else I am curious about.

    MERRYSLAVE

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    1. You and I are a lot alike in our interests and what gets our attention. I too have been curious about sjamboks. Maybe I will just choose to benefit from your experience and forego that particular experience. I have been thinking about buying a good quality tawse, but haven't carried through. The Loopy Johnny can have that same problem with snapping back to hit the hand of the user. We do have a Lexan paddle that we bought early on, but haven't used it in years. It stings but doesn't carry the "wallop" of a wood paddle. I also like instruments that are aesthetically pleasing, and the Lexan is just molded plastic -- no warmth or character to it at all.

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    2. Shilo didn't mention my personal favorite, the "waffle-maker" which is a flexible plastic (rubber?) paddle with studs on one side and spikes on the other with holes in it. It leaves a lovely waffle-type imprint. It will also draw blood if he's been "tenderized" enough.

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  3. Long ago in the early 2000s there was a company called spank and cane in michigan. They sold an oval hairbrush that was weighted with 3 pounds of lead, like pine wood derby car if you grew up in scouts. I ordered one for my lovely and talented wife, and its all she's really used since. I mean I still get the odd whipping with her belt from time to time, but only as a warning. The brush leaves bruises and you never go numb like you do with a paddle. Try your luck if youre feelig particularly self destructive. You can make one by taking the rubber cusion off a thick brush dilling a little and woodgluing a few pounds of fishing lead inside.(after 14 years of making me cry some shook loose and i had to repair it).
    Cheers

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    1. That is definitely a new one on me. Thanks for sharing!

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  4. Growing up, one of the moms used a spatula about a foot long and an inch wide, like you use to ice cakes. It was metal and somewhat flexible. She knew how to use it very effectively.

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  5. This is GREAT stuff! Things I'm assuming most of you take for granted.... is "news to me". I didn't even know there was a rubber strap, let alone is so wicked!

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    1. Give it a try and you will definitely know the definition of "wicked"!

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    2. We have one from the DWC that is called the Dominator. Heavy rubber with a convenient plastic handle.

      Thankfully it is kept put away, like the Guest Towels. I am not enough of a stud for it to even be viable for me. But we do get the occasional visitors when she finds it appropriate to invite the visiting wife to try out the Dominator. I am not privy to the discussions. But I have to assume that the guys are on the tough-butt side.

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    3. I remember seeing it offered on the DWC website. I'm now glad I never ordered one.

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  6. When we started DD, my wife tried OTK with an old fashioned hairbrush. It stung, but did not accomplish its purpose ( I did not dread it and it wasn't a deterrent). Also because I am big OTK just didn't work. My wife, who is athletic (tennis & golf)definitely knew it wasn't effective. So she turned to her sorority paddle, about 20 inches long 4 inches wide, and an inch thick. She used it at a reasonably fast pace and it definitely got my attention for about thirty strokes and then my butt numbed out completely. However I did have deep bruises that I felt for a day or so.
    Our objective, both of us, was to make the spanking hurt sufficiently to deter bad behaviors we both agreed needed correction, So we looked up numbing from spanking. We learned that if you are to use a sorority type paddle, you should wait about 15 seconds for each swat, and after 20 or so swats to either stop for a while or change instruments (we bought a disciplinary strap from London Tanners (expensive)before continuing the punishment. Both could be delivered with my laying on my stomach on the bed. It was very effective. I dreaded it. But my wife didn't like using the sorority paddle because it worried her if it caused bleeding (which it occasionally did). So we then bought a cherry wood paddle as it is almost unbreakable wood, but wood with a little give that would really built up the "burn" after about 50 or so strokes. It was easier for my wife to use, as she spanks at a very rapid pace, and it was very effective on me, it stung in the beginning and then turned into a burn that had me squirming, and begging for her to stop. The paddle is about 15 inches long, 4 inches wide, and between 3/8 and 1/2 inch thick, and ovular in shape. Similar to a Jakarta paddle. My wife could see it was really effective and she uses it to this day. If she is really upset with me she will finish me off with the strap.
    My wife also believes in rapid fire strokes with that paddle. It gives me no time to recover and I believe speeds up the burn. So there has been no need to experiment with different instruments of correction as my wife found a winning formula (for her, not me). The pain from my wife's spankings definitely exceeded what I expected when we both agreed that my wife should have the power to spank me as she saw fit to punish and correct behaviors we both agreed needed correction that were upsetting to my wife. Notwithstanding, agreeing to accept my wife's discipline was a good decision for both of us. I have corrected most bad behaviors and my wife is happy about that and knows disciplining me works. We are also more closely bonded together than ever before and that has many benefits as well.
    Summing up our experience, I think DD is an effective tool to make marriages work better than it was before we started. Hope our experience helps those of you who have not yet or just begun DD.

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    1. Hi Anonymous. Thanks for this. Great stuff. Pace of the swats and how it affects effectiveness might be an interesting topic. Like yours, my wife tends to go pretty rapid fire, but I've wondered whether the 15-second pauses you described might be more effective when using a paddle.

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    2. Yesterday my wife ordered me to lie on my stomach with a pillow under my hips for a belting with l Lochgelly tawse. 70 strokes were given and 8 hours later my butt was inspected and found to have only slight bruising so I was told my next spanking will be more severe. DD has strengthened our marriage and my chastity device stays on during and after my discipline

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    3. Thanks, Jon S. Bruising and marking might be a good subject for a separate topic. I personally find that my susceptibility to bruising has changed dramatically over time. When we first started, 20 with a paddle would leave me really badly bruised. Now, 7 or 8 times that amount with a variety of very hard tools will often not result in very much bruising the next day.

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  7. I'd say we're pretty traditional here. We have a wide array of paddles and brushes that do a good job. Dev doesn't like straps and we've never tried a cane. I'm curious about a cane. Can anyone recommend something ?

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    1. I'm not the best source, but awhile back someone recommended a source called Quality Control in the UK. http://www.quality-control.co.uk/products/canes

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  8. We are new to this but I bought the Curse of Dana set from cane-i-ac. I will say that that this rubber strap feels like pure hell. I'd definitely recommend it for some of the guys that need a harsher implement to get the point across (like me).

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  9. When N. (my late wife) first spanked me, she did it with her own hand, but soon 'graduated' to the kitchen spoon (and spatula) as well as her hairbrush. A martinet was the next addition (selected by her in a French country store, but paid by me) followed by my own leather belt, the rattan cane she discovered in her grandmother's attic, the riding crop she demanded as a birthday present - and, of course, the switches she cut and used while we went trekking in the woods (and was later ordered to go fetch her myself)...

    L. "inherited" those 'tools' (most of which she had watched being used by N.) when I remarried, but she soon acquired her own martinet, as well as a sturdy washerwoman's paddle (in France) and - in S.Italy - a thick harness leather bridle (which she uses ca. once a month)

    L.

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    1. Thanks, L. I hadn't thought of a leather bridle, but I could see that making a very effective strap if swung hard enough.

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    2. N. and J. -both excellent tennis players!- always knew how to swing effectively, be it with a martinet, a strap, a switch, a rattan cane, a carpet beater, a crop... (and also, in J's case, that leather bridle!) Strong wrists is what it takes... but, fortunately for me, not too often! (Spankings, on the other hand, are/were far more frequent!)

      L.

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  10. Joe2 here,

    We have kids, so all instruments are "re-purposed" tools.

    First, is a bath brush from Walmart that Meri suggested to me. It hurts like the dickens when used with enough force. Unfortunately, when that much force is used it makes a sound that my wife hates.

    The next is a fiberglass rod (of uncertain origin or purpose). The rod is 30" long and 1/4" wide. If she holds it in one hand and lets it slide out of the other hand, it will leave purple cylindrical bruises about 2" long. This can hurt a great deal once it is mastered.

    My wife's favorite is an old geriatric shoe horn. It is 17" long and 1 1/4" wide. It is made of stainless steel and had a rubberized handle that extends past the metal. Since it is beveled, it hurts more that you would think. By holding just the end of the grip, my wife can flick it to great effect. We've only had one incident with this tool. Once my wife lost concentration and slid the side of the horn across my bottom after giving a strike. Somehow, the shoe horn caused about a 1 1/2" slice across the skin. It was kind of like a paper cut, but it bled more than expected. Since the side of the shoe horn is very dull, the only thing I can think of, is that the skin was already near failure.

    I have thought of getting a rubber strap, because I can put it in with my tools. I have inherited a large number of tools, some with no discernible purpose, so it can easily hide in plain sight.

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    1. Hi Joe2. Your experience is why I have always shied away from anything metal. Even softer implements can break the skin, and metal just seems to have an inherently high likelihood of doing that.

      Regarding keeping tools with kids around, the solution I finally came up with was a suitcase with a combination lock. Yes, I'm sure they might be curious about what is in there, but as long as it is locked they can't find out. And, it can be moved easily from room to room.

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    2. Dan,

      I hope that your combination lock is more secure than most. Most have just three digits per latch. When I was in school, my brother had a briefcase that had two latches. Each latch required the right three digit combination. He was very protective of it. So one day, when all were out of the house, except for me. I spent the time going through different combinations- 001, 002, ... After I got it open, it was full of his old text books. It was a joke and a well set trap. He had also set it so he could tell if it had been opened. We both got a good laugh, but I had wasted about two hours.

      Joe2

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    3. If mine are that diligently sneaky, then they've earned whatever glimpse they get!

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    4. Four years ago, in a Spanish 'parador', we discovered (well, J. did, actually) one of those long shoe horns that was one of the amenities provided to all guests, but it was entirely made of some (tropical?) hardwood - and J. couldn't resist the urge to try it on my derrière (along with the hairbrush and the martinet she always packs in her suitcase when we are traveling). That shoehorn was effective (and fun to use -at least for her!) but no more so than the two other 'tools' - and noisier (which she doesn't mind as much as I do)...

      L.

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  11. My partner always used the riding crop or cane for my Sunday morning punishments. Then we (I) bought a rubber martinet from Cobra whips which quickly became her favourite. In fact we bought two sizes, the smaller one being used for inner thigh whipping, and occasionally more intimate places. How the rubber lashes sting! I was soon reduced to sheer submission but not yet tears.

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    1. I've never used a martinet and wasn't sure whether they were meant for real punishment. Inner thigh whipping -- out!

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    2. Real (or original) martinets have leather -not rubber!- thongs, and although they are now harder to find, they are still sold in small towns in France. N. (my late wife) got one years ago (after explaining to the woman who ran the store how it would be used!), and J. followed suit some years later (in a different place). Both made a point of hanging the martinet on the kitchen wall, where it could -and still can- be noticed by their (female) friends, although not when we have 'mixed company'. Like N., J. uses the martinet as a "supplement" to spanking when 'needed' - unless she feels some harsher 'treatment' is required...

      L.

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  12. Must take issue with comments that do not have respect for a "hairbrush" spanking. Many years ago I purchased a Nu-West/ Leda Brush that was the most punishing object that I have ever owned... some older photos and/or vids of the nu-West/ Leda era will show it's prowess when wielded by someone like Julia or her cousin Jennifer. The one I had I gave away as a gift to a spanker that I was involved with at the time...have not seen it since. In no time that brush could take the skin off, literally...I think the couple in Seattle, lady Cora have a couple of these still... A hairbrush to fear for sure.

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    1. Hi Stevie. I don't negate the possibility that (1) a really heavy hairbrush; (2) if swung as hard as she can with a very hard swing, could yield a veyr painful session. But, those conditions are hard to replicate. Really heavy hairbrushes are surprisingly hard to find. One of my my strongest memories from our earliest DD days is actually the very first day we moved forward after initially discussing it. She called me and told me that if I wanted to really try this, I was to go buy her an appropriate hairbrush. I walked around a large mall for hours trying to find one, and everything was just flimsy plastic or very light wood. The only modern-day supplier I have been able to find is Kent, but those are very expensive brushes -- usually well over $100 for a hairbrush. And, even if she has a really good brush, she must have the confidence to swing it as hard as she can, which many beginners won't do. I do agree that some of the Nu-West covers I have seen do show the only style that is likely to work -- arm raised very high in the air to be brought own full force. Given the challenges in delivering a really hard hairbrush spanking, however, I would still recommend just going with a $20 - 30 wood bath brush.

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    2. It's true that 'modern' hairbrushes are flimsy - and not suited for spanking! Both N. and J., however, own(ed) a couple of the old-fashioned hairbrushes inherited from an older generation... and those, I can assure you, remain as effective as ever!

      L.

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  13. We seem to "play" at DD currently. My wife is not as consistent as I would like in holding me accountable. However, I have experienced a few items that you have mentioned and a few that you have not. The ones that you have mentioned; the leather belt for sure got my attention, the bamboo hairbrush was moderate but last she used it it split and pinched me, a kitchen wooden spoon though light stung quite a bit and only wanted to experience a few swings. Ones that you did not mention; a yard stick left quite a bruising, a plastic cutting board was an eye opener and probably didn't help that the surface is not smooth, currently she is using a ping pong paddle which I said did not leave the needed effect, the last time she upped the ante and had me begging to stop but within 5-10 minutes it was over. The worst that I have experienced to date was a "Rainbow" flip flip the length of time probably didn't hurt but that thing stung. She used it before we had dinner guest, at dinner and the next day or two had me squirming in my seat.

    Luvinhub

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    1. Sorry, but what is a "rainbow flip flip"?

      You're right, ping pong paddles should also be in the list of implements that people seem often to think would make a good disciplinary tool but just don't

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    2. A "Rainbow" flip flop is just a brand. It is not a cheap, couple dollar flip flop. It is well made and a bit firmer but still has the flexibility to slap the bottom really well.

      Luvinhub

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  14. L started with a paddle brush; purchased with the assumption it would be effective because 1.) it was a hairbrush. And aren't hairbrushes the 'tool of the trade' for spanking?, and 2.) it had the word "paddle" right there in its name. Turned out to be all but useless. It was too light weight and the air cushion the plastic bristles were attached to absorbed a lot of the impact. She moved onto a smaller, but solid wood, hair brush. That created some discomfort while being applied. But that was about it. After that, she moved onto paddles; both made of hardwood and sized for OTK spanking; one lighter weight, the other heavier, with holes. That's when getting a spanking took a turn towards actually being a punishment.

    We never went beyond that. Just as certain phrases can effect one person deeply during a scolding, while having no effect on another, I think implements and positions are just as personal in terms of what resonates. L never spanked me any other way but across her lap (not including swats while standing). Canes and straps... bent over, or lying prone... they just seemed too clinical and disconnected for the way discipline worked in our relationship.

    I will add that, in my experience, the old phrase, "it's not the tool, but how you use it" can also come into play when it comes to spankings (much like Dan's example of Nu-West covers). When I think of the two worst spankings I got from L, there were outside factors that definitely contributed. With the one, we were traveling in the off season and seemed to have the seaside motel we were staying at practically to ourselves. Unlike at our apartment, where neighbors hearing usually existed to some degree as a concern, L didn't seem inhibited at all to let loose. The other time actually was at our apartment. but L was too upset to care. And I think that was the difference. Up to that point, spankings had been more matter-of-fact, "You didn't do what you were supposed, so now I'm going to spank you." But this was something she was really upset about. There was an intensity in her determination to punish me that I hadn't seen in her before. And I felt it ...and then continued to for a while after.
    -H

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    1. Your point is well-taken that the tool is only as good as the craftsman using it. A particularly determined or angry disciplinarian can make the most of a bad tool, while an uninspired one may not do much with even an formidable instrument.

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  15. We have several different types of implements but at least 90% of the time Rosa uses one of two Lucite paddles....one slightly heftier and oval, the other a bit lighter and rounded. These see the most action despite there being other weapons in the arsenal......some quite nasty.

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    1. We have one Lexan paddle, though we don't really use it any more

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  16. Well we have an old oversized wooden ping pong paddle that is very effective ... believe me! It is smooth wood on both sides and ... gets the job done. Only once received a spanking with what was available at the time ... my leather belt ... left me with welts ... more like a beating than a spanking.

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  17. Once of the worst (best) spankings I received, back when I was getting spankings from other men, was from a Jokari paddle. In four years of hindsight, I'm thinking the effect may have come from the determination of the spanker, rather than from the implement used.

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  18. While the tawse is my wife's preferred punishment implement, a riding crop has also been used If I do not lie still and take my punishment. For the crop I am ordered to bend over and hold my buttocks apart and then my butt hole is spanked - very painfully so!

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  19. Just a comment on the cane issue, not being very effective. I swear by buying canes from England, eBay had sellers that ship worldwide. Canes come in very different diameters and length and weight. Usually the smaller diameters 1/4" are more stingy, but can leave welts to the bottoms of those less abused on the buttocks. 3/8" diameter can be a very effective cane if used full force. This will leave good welts and can be very painful. If you have a Dragon cane this diameter, it will deliver a more servere cut asst full force. Because it is more dense and heavier than a standard cane. If the caner snaps the wrist toward the target, just before the cane lands, this will add a bit more speed to the cane and add to the severity of the stroke. If the wife is having trouble with tempo or accuracy, set up a pillow over the end of the bed, and have her practise her swing hitting the pillow. She may find gripping the cane to make it a bit shorter will help greatly with her accuracy. As long as there's room height wise in the room, she should raise cane to just above her shoulder and whip it forward in a slightly descending motion towards het target. Again practise will improve accuracy and force. A better positron for beginners is having the subject lye face down on a bed with hips raised by pillows or towels. She can then swing in a downward motion, changing sides of the bed, to make sure the whole bottom is covered. The subject getting caned can also be restrained in this position, so a proper caning can be administered. Good luck, but definitely buy the canes from England!

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