Friday, March 14, 2025

Meeting 511- The Mechanics/Logistics of a Disciplinary Spanking

Think not those faithful who praise all thy words and actions, but those who kindly reprove thy faults. — Socrates

Hello all. Welcome back to The Disciplinary Couple’s Club.  Our weekly on-line gathering of men and women who are in, or would like to be in, a Domestic Discipline relationship.

 

Once again, before we get started, I would like to thank the female commenters who have recently joined us and to extend an invitation to all others who may be inclined to move from “lurker” to “commenter” status. We like having you around.

 

I hope you all had a great week. Mine was kind of rough. We had a family get-together and, while it’s great that our adult kids still like to hang with us, they aren’t that adult, and I have a hard time keeping up these days. It was a week that won’t help me reverse the bad health trends revealed by my annual physical, which I mentioned last week.  Compared to last year’s findings, I lost ground on all the big metabolic stuff.  Blood sugar – up. Good cholesterol – down.  Bad cholesterol – up, and into concerning range.  Triglycerides – WAY up.  The bummer of it all is that I feel like my diet and exercise routines were no worse than last year and actually a bit better.  So, I’m not sure why the big, negative changes. But, it may be time to add some health-related diet and exercise items to my weekly “check-ins” with Anne.

 


 

And, as I mentioned briefly last week, for no apparent reason, one of my knees got very angry at me and had me limping around like an old man. It still hasn’t resolved and may not, as x-rays indicated I’m getting arthritis in that knee.  As I’ve said, this getting old shit is not for sissies, though it’s better than the only alternative.

 

 

Before moving onto this week’s topic, during the discussion last week, TB recommended a study he had read recently that addressed BDSM practitioner’s origins and the source of their attraction to sexual masochism and submission. 

 

It is an interesting read and, while I maintain that DD is not a subset of BDSM (though perhaps both DD and BDSM are subsets of Dominance/submission?), there are enough overlaps to make the study of likely interest to some of our readers.  This paragraph (with citations omitted) touched on some of my own motivations, and I would accept the label “balancer” as explaining some, though not all, of my DD and FLR attraction: 

 

"Practitioners who give away their power in m/s [sexual masochism/submission] activities fall into two main subgroups: those who are powerful in everyday life, especially professionally, and those who are simply more sexually aroused by submission. Those in the first subgroup are classically labeled “balancers”, as their main goal is to stop being responsible, to let go, in an erotic environment. Those in the second subgroup (whose basic preference is for sexual submission) resemble the general population in that there are significantly more women than men. Indeed, women are much more likely than men to be sexually aroused by submissive behaviors, both in fantasy and practice, at least in rich industrialized countries (where such studies are usually conducted). Finally, it is worth noting that a significant subgroup of BDSM practitioners (approximately 30%) alternate between domination and submission (“switch” practitioners), depending on different factors (mood at the moment, identity and gender of a given partner, etc. Thus, preference for power in BDSM is not necessarily fixed over time, contrary to what is usually found in the general population with regard to sexual practice.”

 

Moving on to this week, I’m still playing catch up after the family visit, so this will be another pretty straightforward topic.  Norton mentioned that he much prefers posts that delve into things like the psychological motivations that underlie our DD and FLR interests.  I totally agree with him, and after ten years of blogging about this stuff, “What’s your favorite instrument or position?” topics don’t stimulate my interest very much.   

 

But, sometimes I just don’t have time to do a drill-down on something more abstract or philosophical, though I do enjoy writing those kinds of posts even if some don't like reading them and just want some spanking porn. (I got one snotty comment on the post from two weeks ago, from an anonymous commenter bitching that the comments were too deep and psychological. I deleted it without reply.)  And, while I generally agree with Norton’s preference, even the more tactical/instructional posts sometimes result in interesting insights from readers.

 

With all that said, this week’s post is pretty straight-forward, though perhaps it will allow all of us to share some titillating details about the logistics surrounding our respective DD sessions.  The topic comes from TB:

 

"Similar topic to what she is wearing- I’m also interested in the mechanics of how other people receive their punishments. Is it quick fire, steady rhythm with no warm up, or a scolding/ lecture once in position then the spanking, flurries of strokes with breaks, is it timed or does she just carry on until she’s satisfied, does she lecture throughout, are there instructions during the spanking, etc. how long, how many strokes, how many implements, what positions? Maybe an interesting topic when nothing else is forthcoming…"

 

We are very much creatures of habit; the vast majority of my spankings follow a pretty consistent pattern.

 

It is pretty rare for Anne to spank me immediately after an offense.  There’s usually some kind of announcement—sometimes face-to-face but often by text—identifying something I did that has earned a session.

 

 

There is often an hours’ long gap between that announcement that I am to be spanked and a follow-up telling me that it’s time. During that time, I’m usually on “pins and needles,” not knowing for sure when she’ll announce that it’s time.

 

When it finally happens, texting is again a preferred means of communication for her.  I will often be sitting in my home office when a text comes in saying something like, “You have 10 minutes until your spanking. Get ready.”  Though sometimes she walks in and tells me something like, “It’s time. Go get ready.”

 

I then go to the master bedroom.  In the past, I would have lowered the window shades but, as I’ve discussed in other posts, Anne decided several months ago that she wants them open.

 

 

I retrieve at least her two “go to” tools – the bath brush and ebony hairbrush from their usual place on our bathroom counter.  In years past, she would cycle through several tools per session, but over the last few years we have simplified that substantially, to the point that the hairbrush and bath brush really have become near-exclusive tools. But, I will often retrieve from the close a canvas carrying roll containing several other straps and paddles.

 

 

I put the tools either at the foot of our bed or on the large leather ottoman at the foot of the bed.  I then strip down to fully nude and . . . wait.  I never know exactly how long it will be before she comes into the room, and after she makes her entrance, she often spends some time puttering around in the bathroom. All the while, I stand there in the middle of the room, naked and afraid.

 

Finally, she comes out and stands in front of me.  She almost always gives some sort of pre-spanking lecture, but it’s usually a pretty straightforward recap of the behavior that put me in this position.  Sometimes, instead of reciting the charges herself, she’ll ask me to summarize why we are there.  There have been a few times that she’s been really angry about something and cut loose with a biting scolding, but most of the time it’s very business-like.

 

 

For several years, once the lecture was over, she would tell me, “Take your position,” which meant draping myself over that large leather ottoman, on which I would have placed a large cushion, to elevate my butt. 

 

But, two or three years ago, we experimented with OTK again for the first time in many years, having given it a mostly unsuccessful try at the outset of our experiments with DD.  Until Anne’s surgery in the latter part of last year, OTK had become the almost exclusive go-to position.  Now that she’s almost fully healed, I expect we will be returning to it soon. 

 

So, she will sit down on the ottoman and summon me to her side.  She usually conveys with a hand gesture that she is ready for me drape myself over her lap.

 

 

During the lecture phase, it is often so business-like that I don't have much of a reaction to it. But, as soon as I know it is time to drape myself over her lap, my anxiety jumps up quickly. Although I'm always shocked by just how much worse it is than I remembered, I remember well enough that I know what I'm in for and that it's going to be very unpleasant.


 

From the first swat, the action is usually steady and unrelenting.  There is almost never a warm-up.  She picks up one of the brushes, and simply starts swatting.  The strokes are always hard from beginning to end and delivered at a pace of one every second or two.  She’ll usually deliver a volley of 10 to 20, pause for a few seconds, then deliver another volley.

 

 

In the old days, there was little, if any, talking during the spanking itself.  These days, she does tend to pause from time to time, often for a rhetorical question like, “Am I getting through to you?” or “You keep doing [whatever the misbehavior was].  Do I need to spank you more often?” 

 

She doesn’t use a timer or hourglass, and as far as I know she doesn’t have a number of strokes in mind.  I’ve almost never succeeded in counting fully the number of swats during any session, but it’s pretty rare for there to be fewer than 200.  A lengthy one might be near double that.  But, her pace is such that the whole thing generally lasts only a few minutes.

 

 

What brings it to a close is usually (a) her sense that the punishment has fit the crime; (b) me showing signs that my butt has gone numb, so further swats aren’t serving much purpose; or (c) the condition of my butt.  She’s squeamish about even the most minor “spotting” of blood, and she often terminates a spanking that she clearly would like to keep going.

 

 

We don’t do anything in the way of aftercare, at least not immediately.  Usually, I get up and pull at least my jeans and underwear back on and put away her tools.  

 

 

 It is pretty common for us to have sex after a spanking, and it’s often during the warm-up that we have our deepest conversations about the DD and FLR aspects of our relationship and about taking things to another level of strictness, adopting a more explicitly maternal model, etc.

 

That’s about it for me.  There’s not much variety to it, but that’s OK.  I think the simplified routine actually makes it more likely for her to use disciplinary spankings consistently, as it’s efficient, takes only a few minutes of her time, and there isn’t a lot of decision-making involved.

 

Is there anything I would change?  I think I may suggest to her that she bring her brushes to me when she’s ready to get started, as I think the lecture phase would be even more intimidating if she were holding one or both brushes as she scolds me.  I might also suggest that we at least try me lowering my pants but not taking them off completely.  As we discussed last week, having jeans pooled up at your ankles is inherently awkward and limits mobility.  I think it might make me feel more vulnerable and might emphasize the power difference between us. But, she seems pretty into having me totally naked when she walks into the room.

 

How about you? What are the mechanics/logistics of your spanking sessions? Is there much variety, or do they follow a standard pattern? Has that pattern changed over time? Is there anything about the process you’d like to change?

 

Finally, during last week’s discussion, Doug mentioned a picture he had seen depicting a naked man moving hurriedly up the stairs, with his fully clothed wife coming behind him and carrying a spanking implement.  I think this is the pic he was looking for.

 

 

Have a great week.

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  1. Yes, that’s the picture, Dan!
    I love that picture! Thanks for posting it.
    Doug

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    1. Yes, it is a cool pic. We all know what he's got coming!

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    2. We used to have a rubber strap about that size. It found it's way into the dumpster.

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  2. I love the way he seems to be ascending the stairs much faster than she is. Perhaps because when she issues an order we tend to instinctively respond quickly.

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    1. Probably unconsciously trying to put distance between himself and that strap.

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    2. That’s how I interpret it, Dan. He’s running from the strap like a little kid, but because he’s running upstairs there will be no escape. That’s the part that really gets to me. Maybe that’s because I can remember actually doing that as a kid.
      Is it my imagination or is the guy’s bottom already a bit pink, as though she has sent him scurrying up the stairs with a couple of preliminary spanks?
      Doug

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    3. Yeah, I too see some pink on his bottom and interpret as he got some preliminary spanking as a warm-up and is now being herded upstairs for the main event.

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  3. Dan,
    The picture I can relate to is the man pulling up his underwear. The belt on the bed brings back memories. That’s a classic in my youth and my marriage.
    T

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  4. Maybe I'll start...I said recently that we had pretty much lapsed with DD. Within that dynamic, my wife would occasionally decide that I needed a spanking and offer one. I would usually accept and be told to go and get implements. Out of choice that would be a strap and she would give me 30-50 strokes without stopping. We often do the boy on the floor with a sore bottom cuddle with head on her knee afterwards...
    On the DD front, my punishments are always the cane. I live under a standing threat that I will be caned if I smoke... and I haven't had a single puff since that threat was in place.
    I've asked her for help to get past a fitness plateau this month and we are doing a formal written review of performance each week... but life (hers and mine) gets in the way and so I have a caning hanging over my head since last week.
    When she is ready to do it, she will send me down to get the cane, I'm then to get fully naked and bend over the end of the table. She is invariably fully dressed. The cane strokes are given with a few seconds between each and I'm expected to count. In terms of numbers, usually between 6 & 12 but never more than 20. Any number over 6 and I can be pretty sure that I will have deep bruising. In terms of the fitness oversight, we've set it up that the number will be 8 or less and could be only one. I've got 3 coming for the first week, and a reckoning today for the second week...
    The process made more difficult by a son living back at home for a while...

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    1. Those fitness plateaus are always frustrating. We haven't done much w/r/t using DD as motivation for fitness goals, but it would seem to be a natural use for it. But, I'm never clear on whether it should focus on the inputs (diet, days in the gym, miles run, etc.), or should it be whether we actually achieve the goal (losing fat, increasing muscle, summiting a mountain . . . whatever). As I get older, I'm finding much to my frustration that I can have the inputs mostly right, yet the goals remain elusive. It's definitely pissing me off the extent to which my diet has to be not just good, but nearly perfect to see any of the metabolic factors get better or the pounds come off.

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    2. We are doing it on the basis of me "doing the right things". If I do everything, it does seem to come down...
      This is my scorecard:

      Exercise
      Exercise at least four times per week (record exercise)
      Biking to work twice counts as one exercise
      Gym or walk up hill longer than 45min counts as one exercise
      Assessment of effort

      Food
      Enter food into MyFitness Pal every day
      Agreed value for home cooked evening meal
      Stay below target calories every day
      Intermittant fast for four days
      No Boston buns at all
      Avoid recognisable sugar and sweets
      No deserts

      Drinks
      No alcohol for March
      No Coke No Sugar

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    3. This is pretty rigorous and if you are meeting her expectations, you deserve some applause. Week after week it is hard. But it is also a very positive use for DD. My wife did something similar with smoking years ago.She probably used her cane more in that period than she ever has has since I stopped smoking. But It is effective if you buy into the goal. And if it is her goal too,it is going to happen
      Alan

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    4. Merk, one of my frustrations right now is that intermittent fasting seems to have an effective shelf-life. I was having similar metabolic issues four or five years ago, and going to an 8:16 form of intermittent fasting reversed the issue completely. I'm still following it today, yet the good results suddenly got bad again. I'm hoping that having the flu a couple of weeks before I took the test somehow wreaked (temporary havoc on my system, but I'm not aware of anything that would provide a medical-based justification for that hope.

      I did use MyFitness Pal or one of its competitors for a while. It did help raise my awareness in certain areas. Like my frequent snacking on nuts was contributing way more calories to my diet than I thought.

      Eliminating beer for an entire month would be hard. I did come close while I had the flu, that was an extraordinary time when I felt so bad that alcohol just didn't sound good. And, we have a beach vacation coming up in a couple of weeks, and there is no way I'm going to forego beer and margs.

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    5. No not meeting expectations as I've just received three strokes this morning... but we set it up that it was possible and if achieved there wouldn't be any punishment. Even if I am punished, doing any of the list helps and, for me anyway, doing all of them will result in weight loss. Doing this also gets her buy in to the process.

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    6. I wouldn't either Dan. Wife has tickets to a wine festival next weekend and so I've been instructed to drink and given an exemption... she's not a fan of taking a non drinking partner to festivals. Vacation would be the same.

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  5. My wife has always spanked spontaneously, meaning spankings are never scheduled. If she gets annoyed with my attitude or behaviour, she orders me to go to the bedroom and take down my pants. (That means her bedroom, the master bedroom, since we have had separate rooms for a couple years). Her command always includes the words “take down your pants” when I am going to be spanked. That hardly needs to be said, but the words have a psychological impact on me, heightening my sense of shame about what is about to happen. I may be imagining it, but I have a feeling that she likes giving that command. A feeling of power, maybe?

    When I get to the room, I lay the spanking tools out on the bed for her. Namely, a wooden paddle, a hairbrush, and a leather strap. (We also have a riding crop and one of those floggers with a wooden handle and multiple leather strips. But she has never used those, so I stopped putting them out. I asked her why she never uses them, and she said they are “silly”. I think that means she sees them as BDSM toys rather than DD tools. I guess she’s right). I pull my pants and underwear down far enough to expose my bottom, usually mid thigh. I assume the position, bent over the end of the bed, with a cushion and a folded pillow under my hips to raise my bottom. Then I wait. Usually the wait is only a few minutes, but she has had me wait for as much as half an hour.

    When my wife comes to the room, she picks up whatever implement suits her mood and begins to lecture or scold me. Like your wife, Dan, she also asks rhetorical questions. She either stands in spanking position or paces behind me for the lecture/scolding. When she gets into position, there is some suspense because I don’t know when the spanking will start. The first few spanks are usually incorporated into the scolding. She will then start the spanking in earnest, occasionally stopping to scold some more. The spankings aren’t lengthy. Maybe 5 to 10 minutes. They hurt, especially when she uses the strap, but to be honest, she shames me more than she hurts me. I don’t know how she decides when to stop. Maybe she reads my body language to judge when she has made her point sufficiently, or maybe she decides based on her mood. She is somewhat capricious, which heightens the effect. I don’t try to be stoic about it. I vocalize “ow! ow! ow!” right from the first smack. It embarrasses me to be so vocal, but I feel that stoic silence would be inappropriate. I have to apologize and promise to improve my behaviour before she stops. When she is done, she tosses the implement onto the bed, and tells me to pull up my pants. If she has spanked me for failure to do some chore in a timely manner, she will tell me to do it, with a warning that I better do it well if I don’t want another spanking. Often, she has turned away and walked out of the room before I have finished doing up my pants.

    She generally spanks me long enough that I feel relieved when she stops. But there is a part of me that wishes she would spank me until I break down completely and cry. I fantasize about that. I also have a craving to be spanked over her knee. She knows that, but for whatever reason, she doesn’t do it that way. I don’t argue about that because I would feel ungrateful to criticize her way of spanking me.
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    1. "She generally spanks me long enough that I feel relieved when she stops. But there is a part of me that wishes she would spank me until I break down completely and cry."

      Same here. Crying from a spanking has been something I have been morbidly attracted to since I discovered the DWC. In fact, the stories with husband crying had a huge emotional impact and were the source of much of the morbid attraction. Twenty years later, it still hasn't happened. Although duration of the spanking is probably an important part of the recipe, the fact is that my bottom goes numb by the end of most spankings now. So, the only way to increase the duration would probably be to break it down into multiple sessions with some kind of break. Or, perhaps some change in instruments or the order of their use so the numbing doesn't set in. But, I suspect that none of those changes would really matter and that it is, instead, just a huge psychological hurdle on my part.

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    2. Just thinking, in addition to the spanking routine I described above, which has become less common with age, my wife has occasionally done a different style of spanking recently. Instead of ordering me to go to her bedroom and take down my pants, she will order me to pull down my pants on the spot, in the living room or the kitchen or wherever. (When we are at home alone, of course). Then she will grab me by the arm, turn me around, and give me several stinging smacks with her hand while scolding me. Then she tells me to pull my pants up. That’s it. It doesn’t hurt much, but boy is it humbling because it really feels like a warning spanking a mother might give a little boy. The trouble is that after such an abbreviated spanking, I find myself craving a real blistering, but I am too embarrassed to ask her for that. She will also sometimes spank me that way on the seat of the pants in places where people might see. In fact, I’m sure people have seen her do that, including my son and daughter-in-law. I find that embarrassing, but I’m not sure it is necessarily something to be embarrassed about if it is quick and there is no nudity. Maybe at our age, it looks like an affectionate game rather than serious DD or a sexual kink. But it does make me blush because it feels like people might guess rightly that those quick spanks to the seat of the pants are the tip of a DD or BDSM iceberg.
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  6. It is rare for me to get a punishment spanking. Perhaps that is due to the high number of maintenance spankings I receive. One of the goals or our maintenance program is to act as a 'catch-all' for minor infractions which may not have warranted a punishment spanking at the time. So when I do get a punishment spanking it is for something substantial or repeating an offense with no sign of me breaking the bad habit. We both agreed at the onset of our 24/7 FLR with DD household, punishments would be given as soon as possible after the offense...even if we are away from home. Another spanking is usually given when we do arrive home. If I realize I have committed an offense and rat on myself, I usually bring her the implement when I confess. When we are together and I commit a spankable offense, she usually gets the implement immediately and spanks me. Punishment spankings differ from other types as they have no warm up, no safe word and no after care. Spanks are issued hard in a slow tempo (about one every 3 seconds) right from the start. Usually not much of a scolding as we both are aware of the reason for the punishment. Maybe a few words during the actual spanking, like 'you know better than to....' or 'you're getting spanked for this way to often, so extra swats this time'. As far as attire, I am kept nude at home, so always spanked nude. If away from home, full nudity if possible, otherwise at least bare bottom. If we are at home and I am clothed, like outdoors, she will take me inside and direct me to strip. Position varies but most often it is either hands on knees or bent over the edge of a bed or table... hardly ever OTK. It has been fairly consistent over the life of our relationship and there is not much I would change if I could. We both believe in bare bottom spanking for punishment, both agree it should be as soon after the incident as possible, and both agree I am to accept my punishment without question. Immediately after the finish of the spanking, she leaves me to reflect on my behavior and punishment. Following that period, there may be some after care, but either way, the issue is over, not to be brought up again.

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    1. The fact that spankings seldom follow immediately after the offense is probably the biggest culprit in our struggles with consistency. I do think an hour or two of anticipation can play a big role in making me more psychologically vulnerable, but for us the gap is often days, not hours.

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    2. Spanked Cowboy, I am envious of you. I wish my wife would give maintenance spankings. I tried to sell her on the idea of maintenance spankings years ago, but she thought it would be silly to spank me without any specific reason of her own. I tried to argue that the purpose would be weekly demonstrations that she was the boss. She was more domineering back then than she is now, and she simply pointed out that she didn’t have to give me pointless spankings to prove it. She was right. By the agreed terms of our FLR, “disobedience” was a spanking offence, but she almost never had to spank me for that reason because I never disobeyed a direct order. Sometimes I was tempted to disobey to provoke her to punish me, but I couldn’t bring myself to do it. That would feel too much like a betrayal of the agreed terms of our FLR, like I was gaming the system for my own selfish purposes. The result is that I have often had unfulfilled cravings for spankings. I am enough of an emotional masochistic that I have been able to accept that. Being denied something that I craved by my wife was kind of a turn on in itself because denial is a form of D/s. However, through talk therapy I have come to the realization that I have had to swallow quite a bit of resentment. I love my wife, and I am grateful that she accepted my need for DD. But I do envy guys whose wives give maintenance spankings.
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    3. Doug, Maintenance spankings were added to our FLR when good behavior on my part made discipline near non-existent. Out maintenance spankings were intended to accomplish 3 goals. 1) To promote the concept of who is in charge and my role in the relationship. 2) To remind me of what is in store for any rule breaking or poor behavior. 3) To act as a 'catch-all' for minor infractions which may not have warranted a punishment spanking at the time. Our lives were too busy at the time to anchor a specific day or time to administer the spanking, so we devised random scheduling by means of tossing a single die. Following a spanking I would toss the die, add 1 to the number shown and that is the number of days until the next spanking. That insured they would never occur on consecutive days or ever be more than 7 days apart. Punishment spankings are still given as she determines necessary and do not interrupt the maintenance schedule. There have been times I have felt I needed a spanking between maintenance sessions and simply ask for one and she delivers.

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    4. Dan, I could never wait days between the infraction and the spanking. That would greatly lessen the effectiveness of the punishment.

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    5. Thanks for your response, Spanked Cowboy. I wish my wife would spank me on a regular basis like that, and that I could ask for a spanking when I have a craving for one.
      Maybe your wife gets erotic pleasure from spanking you, whereas my wife sees DD as a chore which she only does when my behaviour or attitude inconveniences or annoys her. On the other hand, the frequency of DD has dropped off as my wife’s interest in sex has diminished with age. Why would that be unless DD was sexual for her, even if only subconsciously? Who knows what women think about this stuff? Another question for you, if you don’t mind my curiosity: Is there a significant difference between a maintenance spanking and a punishment spanking for you? For example, do you look forward to maintenance spankings but fear punishment spankings?
      Doug

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    6. Doug, Thanks for your response and you or anyone can ask as many questions as you like. First off, have you actually asked your wife to spank you regularly? Have you explained your need or desire for regular spankings? Our random scheduling does help to avert the feeling of 'maintenance being a chore' that a rigid schedule produces. My 'life partner/Dominant Mistress' (not wife) does get some erotic pleasure from our maintenance spankings. Frequent sensual touching during the spanking often leads to sexual activity following the session. We are at the age where sex has diminished, but welcome the increased sexual activity which our FLR and DD relationship has provided. Without going into details right now, it seems our DD lifestyle is promoting more intimate time rather than reducing it.
      As far as your question on the difference between the spankings, there are both physical and mental differences. There is no warm up, no safe word and no after care. No warm up means spanks are hard right from the start. No safe word means I cannot slow or halt the spanking. This has to be accompanied with complete trust in your partner to know and respect your limits. Punishment spanking are meant to hurt, but not harm. No after care here means a period of reflection on my behavior and punishment is allowed before normal life is resumed. Punishment spankings are quick and hard... shorter in duration but more harsh than maintenance spankings. Maintenance sessions can be quite long, up to an hour or more including a warm up and after care. Still hard enough to be effective, but nothing like a punishment. It is true, I look forward to maintenance, but try to stay well behaved and avoid being punished. Having said that, I realize and agree that punishment is part of an FLR and DD household. I do feel better with a clean slate after willfully accepting any punishment she deems necessary. Hope this answers your questions, but feel free to anything about my relationship.

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  7. As far as announcing the spanking she will use a like , "We'll be having a discussion!" " There will be retribution coming!" or "You'll be having a day of reckoning! "
    She's not shy about using them in front of others either.
    She will often wait days , or even a week before carrying out her threat which really bugs me as I would rather just get it over with.
    If I get impatient and ask her when she just smiles and says "Soon!"
    When the time does come , it always seems to take me bu surprise and I have to drop what I'm doing and join her in the bedroom.
    Usually she'll be seated on the edge of the bed , paddle and hairbrush beside her and ready to go when I arrive.
    She doesn't have to say anything and I strip to my underwear as she enjoys 'unveiling' my bare bottom.
    She will do this after starting the spanking with the paddle on my underwear and then goes to work with both implements on the bare.
    As she spanks she goes through my offences and scolds me for not following the rules.
    Afterwards I stay undressed and give her a foot massage , after which she will usually also undress for intimacy .She will tease me about the spanking and how red my butt is.
    If I were to change anything , I would prefer not to wait so long and to be a bit more prepared when it is coming.
    Sometimes it does end a little bit earlier than expected and I'd prefer her to continue and be more severe.

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    1. Yeah, I too am not wild about substantial waits. At some point, my feelings of guilt and sense of wanting to be held accountable drop like a rock. And, as you said, it's just good to get it over with.

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    2. I'm not sure why our ladies prefer to keep us waiting.

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  8. Our routine is pretty much fixed now. Spanking happens first thing in the morning, unless I have done something especially wrong that she wants deal with there & then. She will usually have read my journal and will announce that a reset is needed. I may have apologised for something in my journal or owned up in some way. She may be responding to some behaviours during the previous days or she may just feel that I need it.

    I may protest (mildly) and very occasionally she will postpone the punishment, putting me ‘on probation’. But normally she will tell me to get into position lying on the bed with bottom half exposed and raise up with a pillow. She will then lecture and make sure I understand why it is happening. This can take many minutes sometimes or be very short /direct. She will have taken the strap off its hook on the wall. Once the lecture is finished she will then set the timer ( a giant egg timer) and start strapping. No warm up and usually in bursts of ten or so strokes.

    She will tell me to stop clenching and will stop ever so often to check the state of my bottom. The strapping will go on for 3, 6 or more minutes. She delivers about 90 - 120 strokes per each turn of the timer. I know because I recorded a couple of sessions in secret. When she has finished she will sit on the bed beside me as ask how I am feeling. I am then told to either get dressed or get into bed for her to join me. TB

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    1. Clenching doesn’t make a difference to me anyway. It hurts like hell whether your clenching or not. My wife has done a few of these short sessions. We will be in the kitchen and she will take my pants down and start hand spanking me or grab a sooon. They are short, but capture you’re attention.
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  9. My wife does the "stop clenching" thing too, though I seriously doubt that clenching does anything to make it less painful. Three to six minutes is probably the average for us too, though usually closer to 6 than to 3.

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  10. “My wife does the "stop clenching" thing too, though I seriously doubt that clenching does anything to make it less painful.”

    Dan, I think the clenching might make it worse. I say that because the professional disciplinarian I saw a couple of times paused the spanking at a point when I thought I couldn’t take any more. She told me I was tensing my muscles too much and I needed to relax. She told me that tensing in anticipation of the spanks was making it worse for me and that I should try to let my body go limp over her knee. I am no expert, but she probably was.
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  11. It's been a while since my last one, but the routine was similar.

    My wife often told me that I had earned a spanking well in advance. In fact, there were too many times when the promised spanking didn't happen at all. This is my biggest complaint and the one thing I would change. Being told I was going to be spanked, anticipating it to happen for days, and then realizing it wasn't, resulted in an emotional roller coaster—excitement/anxiety to relief/disappointment to resentment.

    When she announced, "It's time," we would both head into the bedroom. I would get her the implements. Her favorites are the rubber paddle, wooden paddle, and bath brush because they get the biggest reaction from me. I'd be told to drop 'em, and bend over.

    The spankings are always quick and intense. She would often stop to ask me questions related to why I was being spanked: "Are you going to remember to..." The proper answer was always, "Yes, dear." (She doesn't like Ma'am). Sometimes, I was told that I earned a certain number of swats. In those cases, she would keep count silently. The swats would come quick and hard, and as painful as it was, it seemed to be over before I knew it. I was glad it was over but often felt like I earned more.

    After it was over, I'd pull up my pants, we would hug, and go about our day.
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  12. I assume a wife considers clenching to be a non acceptable form of resistance like putting your hand back?

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  13. I have a supplementary question for you guys that relates indirectly to this week’s question.
    Suppose you had an upcoming medical appointment like a prostate exam, where you would have to drop your pants. The way your wife spanks, how much time would she have to allow between a spanking and your medical appointment for the evidence of spanking to disappear? When my wife spanks me, the evidence is gone by the next day, but when I was spanked by the professional disciplinarian, the evidence was visible for a week.
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    1. It's unpredictable. I seldom get full-on, classic bruising anymore. But, I get big gray-ish ovals that can last for several weeks. If a doctor was that close to my butt, I suspect it would take at least four or five days for there to be no visible traces of a recent spanking. I used to be pretty paranoid about it, but I think that if a doctor were to notice and say anything, I'd probably just say it was from consensual sexual activity, and leave it at that. Or, you could always claim it was from a recent fall. That might sound contrived, but I actually did take a fall on stairs a few years ago that left very deeply bruised. Now, cane marks? Those might be harder to explain away.

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    2. It’s actually funny you mention that. I took a fall off of a sport utility vehicle years ago. My whole right cheek was bruised. I ironically had a doctors appointment a week after the incident. The doctor did his physical. The nurse happened to walk in the room as the doctor was finishing. I don’t believe she saw anything, but the doctor was like what happened to you. I explained the issue and he looked at me with his glasses at the bridge of his nose. It was almost as if he didn’t buy the story and that actually is what occurred. I’m like most, I’ve taken some serious strappings and siding bruise anymore.
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    3. I didn't see a doctor for mine, but it was excruciating. I was in London at the time, and had to endure very long flight back to the US the next day, with a solid black and blue bruise covering both cheeks and going deep into the muscle tissue. I had some really bad bruising from the fraternity-style paddle the first few times Anne used it on me, but it was nothing like this. I must have hit the edge of the concrete steps at exactly the right angle to bring my entire weight down on the narrowest edge. I've never had bruising that deep, and I've taken a lot of hard falls off horses and motorcycles, and while skiing, over the years.

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  14. Dan, there is a detail in your description of your routine that nobody has commented on:

    “I then go to the master bedroom. In the past, I would have lowered the window shades but, as I’ve discussed in other posts, Anne decided several months ago that she wants them open.”

    I missed your previous posts about this. I should look them up because it interests me. I think that window shades up or down can be considered an aspect of technique because it has a psychological impact, even if your bedroom is oriented in a way that neighbours are unlikely to see you. In our house, the routine has always been that my wife decides whether the shades are up or down. I don’t recall whether she made that an explicit rule, but it feels like a rule to me. Basically, my wife always keeps the blinds open during daylight hours and closes them at dusk, so daytime spankings, which are most common, are done with the blinds open. We have a ground floor bedroom, but the location is quite private, so nobody would see her spanking me unless they entered the backyard, walked right up to the window, and looked in. A peeping Tom. So it is unlikely anyone would see us, but psychologically I feel more exposed with the blinds open. I don’t know whether it makes a difference to my wife. Well, I know she is somewhat conscious of the possibility of exposure because in the past we have sometimes had afternoon sex with the blinds open, and that was a conscious decision to do something risqué that excited both of us.
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    1. You can find the description of how it came about in my Sept. 10, 2022 post. It started with one of the rare times that she joined me in the room as I was setting things up. I I sort of brought it on myself by asking if she wanted me to pull the shades down, and she said no. I have no idea why I asked.

      As I said above, it's pretty unlikely that a neighbor could see. But, not impossible.There are at least two houses behind us that are positioned such that someone might be able to see into our bedroom window, including one that is directly behind and on a slightly higher grade. I think the trees at the back of both lots would block there view, but it's hard to know without standing in their bedroom and looking across the lots.

      For a short period of time, it seemed to encourage a huge change in her openness to others knowing. Virtually all spankings are done in our bedroom, but one day the dog was sleeping on our bed and she decided not to kick them out. Instead, we went to one of the guest bedrooms. Its window faces directly into a window of the adjoining house, and the's only about 30-40 ft. between the two windows. She wanted to leave the shades up for that session as well. I didn't refuse, but I did point out that the family next door has teenage kids, and she agreed we shouldn't risk them seeing.

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    2. Thanks for giving me the date of the previous post, Dan. I went and read it, as well as the comments. Interesting post and comments. I find it hot that Anne consciously chooses to have the shades up. I especially like that she chose to put the shades up after you had lowered them. In my mind, that really sends a message. Some commenters brought up the idea of spanking with open windows. Is that something that Anne does now?
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    3. No, our climate isn't very conducive to that. Cold winters and hot summers, and the seasons in between not long enough to have windows open very often. There's also the issue of the kids next door. I could see her doing something like that in the future once they are out of the house, assuming we are still living in the same place.

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  15. My wife and my dynamic is diffferent then the dynamic you have. I very much have a spanking fetish and most of our spankngs are for "stress release" and to reinforce our dynmaic. All of that is done to help me meet my spanking needs and my wife has been kind enough over the years to indulge those needs on a reasonable basis.

    We also use spankings for punishment, but that is rare (time between punishment spanknigs is measured usually in quarters or years). However we have a specific ritual we use for punishment spankings.

    The first is she only uses a specific bath brush (we bought it from the Body Shop; it is quite effective) and it is only used for punishment spankings. It is rare that the spanking is given that the time of what is the cause of the spanking because my wife wants to make sure she is calm and in control (which she almosts always is regardless of the situation; she just feels this keep this practice safter. Plus the real world gets in the way a lot of times). Like you the waiting can be unbearable.

    When the time comes I will wait in our bedroom sitting on the bed. I am usually fully dressed. She will come in and i stand up and she sits down on the bed. We will have a discussion about why we are here. Sometimes she does all / most of the talking, sometimes she wants to hear me explain what i did and why i should not have done it. She then tells me to pull my pants and underpants down and go overr her knee. She will usually say a few more senteneces about what i did to earn this spanking and then she begins.

    She spanks HARD. No warm up. Just hard and fast. It is the farthest thing from the stress release spankings I crave. As we explored this area, she had to be convinced that this would not be something I want or like. And yes, like all couples it takes time and communication to make this work, but it is something I fear not crave. And it is something she is comfortable doing.

    She spanks me for what seems like forever but i am over her knee for 5 - 10 mins, depending on if she stops in beteween to talk to me and/or what i did. I don't reach tears but i am truly pleading with her to stop.

    At the end, i generally kneel with my head in her lap. I apologize, tell her I lover her and she thank her for spanking me. She tells me she loves me and i am forgiven. We do have a rule that we do not have sex that day or the next day after a punishment spanking (we do a lot after the non-punishment spankigs).

    Luckily, i have had only 10 or so punishment spankings over the years. They are rare but the make our relationship very special.

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    1. Steve, you are a lucky man, having a wife who is willing to meet your various spanking needs. Like you, I consider myself to have both an erotic spanking fetish and a desire for the kind of accountability DD described by Dan and other guys here have.

      I like your wife’s idea of having a spanking implement, the bath brush, that is reserved solely for disciplinary spankings to emphasize the separation of categories. That detail interests me because I actually have a fetish that extends to spanking implements. Brushes, paddles, straps, etc, turn me on just because of what they are used for. I think I actually possess the bath brush you got from the Body Shop. A few years ago I went to the Body Shop to get some other products for my wife, and I saw a beautiful bath brush and just had to buy it for my wife to spank me with. Unfortunately, she has never used it because she doesn’t want me to spend money on implements she finds redundant, so the bath brush is just a bath brush. I love the way you describe the punishment spankings your wife gives you. The way she does it has a wonderful maternal vibe in my mind.
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  16. Depending on circumstances, my wife may announce that I'm getting spanked immediately before or several hours before, but always the same day. For a short spanking, she may sit on a hassock or chair, but mostly she sits on the bed because this is more comfortable for her. She lowers my pants and shorts for a short one, but for a longer one removes them entirely. And she prefers to do this herself. All spankings are over her knee. She almost always starts with her hairbrush but in a longer spanking will use at least one other implement - strap or wooden ruler- and always finishes with her hand. She will pause from time to time for commenting or scolding. I tend to squirm a lot
    when the pain is intense, and she warns me to stop. She spanks with a regular beat and when she pauses I'm never sure if it's over or if she's going to resume. When she decides it's time to stop, she says comforting things and rubs my sore backside for a bit and lets me up and hugs me. We wiil most likely make love later, but not immediately after the spanking. She is a lovely woman and the spanking makes me feel very close to her.

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    1. Man, I am really jealous of some of you guys! Tom, you are so lucky that your wife spanks you over her knee and then comforts you while you are still in that position. I wish my wife would take me over her knee! I can imagine that making love later, when your bottom is still throbbing, must be wonderful too. I don’t think my wife and I have ever had sex the same day that she has spanked me. I’m not sure whether keeping discipline and sex strictly separate is a conscious disciplinary strategy on my wife’s part or is just a matter of following her mood. I have, however, managed to eroticize aspects of DD that frustrate me by thinking of them as elements of domination and submission. My wife’s motto could be, “I did it my way.”
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    2. Many guys seem to favor OTK. I understand its benefits but I am more neutral toward it. I feel a little more out of control with it at the beginning than become even more uncomfortable-if she pins my legs .I have a moment of panic ( it passes). I realize I am making a good argument for OTK as DD practice. But just noting that for me it is probably more effective than my wife realizes
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    3. Alan, I don’t know whether OTK would be any more effective for me as discipline, as opposed to my wife’s technique of making me bend over the end of the bed. Either way, I think a woman could deliver a blistering spanking, and a standing position might even increase the spanker’s potential force. For me the desire to be taken over my wife’s knee is an emotional craving. I was going to say an erotic craving, but I think the craving is more than purely erotic.
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    4. Alan, my wife has never pinned my legs, but I've thought about suggesting it, as it does seem like it would amplify the feelings of helplessness and loss of control.

      Doug, I agree that I have a craving for OTK that isn't exactly not erotic but isn't exactly erotic either. During the last few months when Anne was recovering from a surgery, there weren't many sessions, but the few there were couldn't be OTK. She had me lay on the bed. That used to be a common position for us, but after a couple of years of OTK as the go-to, laying on the bed felt remarkably more cold and unemotional.

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    5. Doug said: "I have, however, managed to eroticize aspects of DD that frustrate me by thinking of them as elements of domination and submission."

      I definitely rationalize the elements I don't like on the basis that just because I am averse to something does't mean she is. In fact, she may like some of those things precisely *because* she knows I don't like them. She definitely is that way with "service submission," i.e. ordering me to do things for her. She doesn't do that very often, but when she does I almost always have an immediate desire to balk. She is very aware of that and says it's one reason she likes bossing me around - she likes seeing me comply even though she knows I want to tell her to fuck off.

      A more substantial example would be strong scoldings. As I said in the post, most of the time her lectures and scoldings are pretty mild. But, a few times they have been much more biting. At first, I reacted with a lot of resentment. In one case that resentment lasted a few weeks, because the thing she was criticizing was something I saw as close to a core part of my personality. But, it was analogous to the Kubler-Ross stages of grief, but in a slightly different order. At first I was angry and/or resentful. Then I was in denial, telling myself she simply wasn't right in her interpretation of the event. Then came a grudging acceptance. Then, finally, her being that tough and dictatorial seemed hot.

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    6. I'm certainly in the camp of preferring OTK for any implement short enough to work. I find that if I'm over her knees it is initially a bit of effort to hold myself on her lap and that's not great...however if she pins my legs and holds my outside arm (always right as she's right handed) then I am very secure and surprisingly impotent. I suspect that I could escape but it certainly feels that I wouldn't be able to. This appeals to my sense of not having a choice in my punishment...

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    7. “She had me lay on the bed. That used to be a common position for us, but after a couple of years of OTK as the go-to, laying on the bed felt remarkably more cold and unemotional.”

      Yes, that’s exactly it! I think I crave the intimacy of OTK. Physical separation between spanker and spankee can feel “cold and unemotional” or even alienating. My childhood experience might have conditioned my feelings about that. When I was little my mother would generally discipline me herself, over her knee with either her hand or a wooden spoon. But when I was about 8 or so, she stopped spanking me herself and delegated punishment to my father. My father punished me with his belt, holding me up in a standing position with a grip on my upper arm. In therapy I have discovered that I have pent up resentment about that. I think that’s the reason I crave the intimacy of OTK from my wife, and punishment without physical contact can feel emotionally alienating, especially when my wife uses the strap, which reminds me of my father’s belt. (On the other hand, I procured the strap for her, so that’s on me).
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    8. Dan, concerning the scolding, Anne sounds like me wife. My wife can scold in a way that feels like emotional spanking. I guess I resent it sometimes. I wish she would use the hairbrush or paddle instead. But I don’t rebel because part of me is turned on by it. Sometimes I think she gets off on having the power to scold me and boss me around.
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    9. For me, any turn-on happens only in retrospect. For mild lectures, I'm usually bored or choking back a retort or a desire to add some defense or nuance. For the more serious scoldings, any sense of being turned-on happens days or, in one instance, weeks later.

      I do thinks she gets off on have the power to scold me, and I know she gets off on having the power to boss me around because she's said as much.

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    10. Merk said: "This appeals to my sense of not having a choice in my punishment..."

      That desire for it to feel like I don't have a choice is a big, big thing for me.

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    11. “I'm certainly in the camp of preferring OTK for any implement short enough to work. I find that if I'm over her knees it is initially a bit of effort to hold myself on her lap and that's not great...however if she pins my legs and holds my outside arm (always right as she's right handed) then I am very secure and surprisingly impotent. I suspect that I could escape but it certainly feels that I wouldn't be able to. This appeals to my sense of not having a choice in my punishment...”

      Merk, OTK with my arm and legs pinned is something I fantasize about but have never experienced. Feeling “secure and impotent” and “not having a choice” must be powerful. It’s interesting that nobody here has talked about the use of restraining paraphernalia for DD. Is that because the use of restraints would destroy the “domestic” feel of DD and cross over into BDSM? If a photo or artwork makes me think about it, being held in place by restraints over a spanking bench seems like it would be a powerful experience, but for some reason it’s not something I fantasize about without prompting.
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    12. “For me, any turn-on happens only in retrospect. For mild lectures, I'm usually bored or choking back a retort or a desire to add some defense or nuance. For the more serious scoldings, any sense of being turned-on happens days or, in one instance, weeks later.”

      I get that, Dan. Being scolded is like being spanked insofar as it can be hard to take in the moment, but the memory of it is arousing. The turn-on isn’t delayed by days or weeks (!) for me, but it may set in hours later. As for feeling bored by mild lectures, I have sometimes been spanked for that, either because I look like I am not paying attention or I forget myself and roll my eyes.
      Doug
      P.S. I feel like I have been writing too much here the last couple of weeks, Dan. It’s like I have a need to talk about this stuff, but I fear I may bore people, like the guy at a party who won’t shut up about himself. I apologize if I’m annoying people. I will try to limit the frequency of my comments to a more reasonable level. My wife just scolded me for spending too much time writing on my iPad. She thinks I’m arguing with random Trump supporters about politics. I didn’t correct her.

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    13. Doug:

      No, I don't think you are commenting too much or otherwise commandeering the conversation.

      There are a lot of different members here, who follow their own patterns of participating: Sometime a member will be week after week, with multiple comments each week, and then gone for several months.

      It's nice to have someone (you) around who keeps the conversation moving forward (or sideways, which is AOK; some of our best discussions have been "off-topic").

      Regarding "restraints" curing CP, I will comment later when I have more time.

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    14. Doug, comment as much as you feel like. There have been times that I've felt a commenter was just commenting for the sake of commenting or taking to take over the conversation. You're not in that category. As the moderator, I do try to comment at least on the first comment each person makes on a topic, sort of as a sign of respect for the commenters and especially to encourage new commenters to keep it up. On the rare occasion you see me systematically not responding to someone, it's usually because (a) it's become clear they aren't really in a DD dynamic or interested in one, and are "in the wrong room" so to speak; (b) they seem intent in taking things in a direction others aren't going in, like when someone who is clearly getting "funishment" spankings keeps commenting about how others spankings seem too hard or so hard they must be fake; again, they are in the wrong room: or (c) I strongly suspect they are not who/what they claim to be, such as a man pretending to be a woman or a single person pretending to be a couple. It hasn't happened all that often, but we have a series of them over the years.

      Regarding restraints, we tried that for a short time. I expected it to create this major feeling of helplessness for vulnerability, but for whatever reason, it didn't. It added prep time and complication, without really adding anything to the experience. At the time, I didn't think about whether it took "domestic" out of the equation, but I think you're probably right about that.

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    15. Okay thanks, Dan. By the way, my wife wasn’t completely wrong about my spending time arguing with random people about politics. I have, in fact, been going back and forth from political sites to DCC in recent weeks.

      I think you are right that the use of restraining paraphernalia would add unnecessary prep time and complication. No way my wife would have the patience for that. Also, where would one put something like a spanking bench where it would never be seen by guests or visiting children and grandchildren? I was tempted for a long time to get a queening chair for my wife, but I never did because it would be so obvious to prying eyes what it is used for.
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    16. When we experimented with it, we used two cuffs that connected to a short bar, which could be placed over the top or under the bottom of a door. We would position me over a short foot stool or exercise ball, and put the bar under the door to the room we were in. It did function pretty well as a restraint and could be easily stored away after use.

      I've been staying off of most partisan political sites, though I do notice my political engagement on Facebook surging again, my best intentions notwithstanding.

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  17. my wife spanks me spontaneously when she is upset/annoyed and also states one will be the next morning or day if she is tired or there isn't an opportunity to do it in the moment. In both scenarios the spankings are the same. She guides me to the bedroom or the den and orders me to bend over the bed or couch and pull my pants/underwear down to my ankles. She then proceeds to scold harshly while spanking me. Spankings are always with a cane or belt. She will ask rhetorical questions along with having me repeat back to her what she tells me to repeat as far as learning a lesson and expected changes in behavior going forward. - DD

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    1. Rhetorical questions seem to be a part of the spanking protocol for quite a few wives. Dan mentioned that his wife asks rhetorical questions, and my wife really knows how to use rhetorical questions to make me feel embarrassed and ashamed during spankings. It’s almost as though rhetorical questions are a disciplinary technique that women just naturally employ. I always feel that my wife is using for an emotional purpose, to shame me. But maybe the purpose is pedagogical: as you say, our wives want to make sure that we are “learning a lesson.”
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    2. "having me repeat back to her what she tells me to repeat as far as learning a lesson "

      This is effective in reinforcement -both because I have to pay attention to what she is saying and repeating it reinforces it. If she uses this "repeat what I said" technique, she is teaching.
      Alan.

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    3. Doug mentioned his wife "...keeping discipline and sex strictly separate..." and that appears to be true of many of the wives. I would find that very painful. Spanking and receiving spanking are very intimate acts. Even though it's punishment, it makes me yearn to be close to my wife, and she seems to have similar feelings.

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    4. Tom, I agree with you that spanking is a very intimate act. Maybe it feels more intimate to me than it does to my wife. The strict separation of spanking and sex comes from her, not from me. At least I think it does. I certainly feel closer to my wife after a spanking. I would love to go down on her after she has spanked me, but it seems she would rather give me some housework to do. I like pleasing her that way too.
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  18. Since commentary on pictures the pictures you post isn’t unwelcome, I really like the drawing that appears to show a mother spanking her daughter, as seen by a voyeur through a window grille. I like the facial expressions: the spanker looking determined to send a message and the spankee looking like the message is getting through loud and clear. That the scene is partially obscured by the grille enhances the voyeuristic effect. Although I prefer F/M to F/F pictures, I can easily project myself into the situation of the young lady being spanked.
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    1. Although I have a preference for F/m pictures, since that's my dynamic, one deficiency with most of them is the facial expressions almost never convey any real emotion. Facial expressions exhibiting real distress, remorse, and/or desperation for a spanking to end are extremely attractive me, and for whatever reason very few spanking artists seem to do that well with a male subject. It's all just grimacing and yelling.

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    2. Dan, is it possible that differences in the way spanking artists show the facial expressions of men being spanked versus women being spanked reflects real word differences? Maybe with us men it really is mainly “grimacing and yelling.” It might be different for young men nowadays, but when I was a kid we were still explicitly told “big boys don’t cry”. So maybe women have cultural permission to express emotions that we men feel compelled to suppress, especially in a situation where the power dynamic could be seen by many people as emasculating to begin with.
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    3. Maybe, though I don't think that's really it. Even when artists try to portray a man crying, it usually fails to portray any real emotion. I can't draw stick figures, so I can't really articulate what the issue is let alone how they could fix it.

      One "exception" is Barbara O'Toole, but it's also clear she is not really drawing many of her pics. I don't know the mechanics, but she's clearly starting with photos of real models and applying some kind of technical process to make them look like a drawing. So, some of her male characters do display real emotions, but it's because she's starting with photos of real people displaying those real emotions.

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    4. I just did a search of Barbara O’Toole F/m spanking pictures, and you are right that she is much better at showing the emotions in the facial expressions of the guys being spanked than most spanking artists. I’ve never thought about that, but that’s one reason I like her art. You could be right that it’s because she’s working from photographs. It could also be a matter of a feminine artistic sensibility putting greater emphasis on emotions, similar to the way erotica written by women tends to have more emotional depth than porn written by and for men.
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  19. "What are the mechanics/logistics of your spanking sessions?" - my wife usually starts hinting that I am about due for a spanking for some days before, though that is not always the case. The last few punishment spankings (not check-ins or things like that), she sent me pictures of paddles and canes laying on the bed and told me to get home right away. In both cases, this was totally out of the blue, and quite frankly while I was probably slightly nervous that a spanking was imminent, I was even more nervous because I really had no idea what I was about to be punished for.

    Spankings almost exclusively take place in our bedroom, and usually I am bent over the bed or kneeling on the bed, or occasionally laying down on the bed, generally bare bottomed but often wearing a t-shirt or something.

    "Is there much variety, or do they follow a standard pattern?" - Pretty standard. They almost always follow the same general format.

    "Has that pattern changed over time?" - probably the most notable thing is that the process has become much shorter over the past few years. Initially, of course spankings were short and not all that hard. Then, as she learned just how hard and long she could - and probably should - spank me, punishments tended to get longer and longer, typically with multiple rounds of spanking separated by corner time or things like that. However, over the past few years, spankings have gotten shorter and shorter, though she now spanks pretty hard from the get go. I think this is all just a reflection of just how busy our lives have gotten, so even giving me spankings - which she actually really gets a charge out of - simply doesn't get the time, attention, or creativity that she used to give it.

    "Is there anything about the process you’d like to change?" - I guess it would have to be getting back to longer, harder, multiple-round spankings when needed. In particular, I would like for her to make tears a priority again. However, that is only as I am sitting here typing this, not when a spanking is actually likely to happen soon!

    -ZM

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    1. How do you feel about the having no idea what you are being punished for thing? That wouldn't work for me at all, unless she eventually told me what I was being punished for and it seemed to have a real basis in fact.

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    2. I guess I should have been more clear. I meant in the period between when she first sent me pictures of spanking tools and told me to come home immediately and the time that I actually get home I had no idea just what I was about to be punished for. She of course told me the reason before actually spanking me. But still, in the time between her message and the time I got home, I was only partly thinking about the fact I was going to be punished, and I was really more focused on what possible reason there could be.

      -ZM

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    3. Got it. If my wife did that, I think I'd be concerned she'd ask me, "Do you know why you're getting spanked?", I'd inadvertently confess to all sorts of stuff she didn't even know about.

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    4. My wife and I rarely do OTK.
      Unlike some comments here, for punishment, I would prefer the punishment to be more sterile and cold. After all, it’s punishment. I prefer to be like it was growing up. Im usually ordered upstairs, told to drop my pants underwear and bend over the bed. That or we have a large pillow I bend over. She then scolds while she is thrashing me. When finished, sometime we will have intercourse or some form of sexual activity.
      My preference would be for no activity, but it doesn’t work that way at all times. We don’t do maintenance punishment. For me it seems quite contrived. I haven’t been thrashed in a while. My wife is helping a sick family member and I took the reins of handling everything. I spoke with her on the phone yesterday and snapped. Her response was quick and said don’t talk to me with that tone. When I get home you’re getting a beaten young man. Thank goodness she’s a week away, but I apologized. The stress of things have piled up over the past few weeks, but I shouldn’t have spoken to her like that. This is the number one thing I’m thrashed for, and it was me who told her to not tolerate it and punish severely. I’m working on ensuring my attitude changes. I get animated over things I can’t control anyway.
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  20. I have concentrated on the mechanics I experience as most effective as discipline versus alternative mechanics, which seem less effective. As I looked over the listing, I noticed that she uses more effective options when sending a stronger message. It does get delivered.

    • Effective: Scolding – making me stand in front of her and answer questions while she lectures, taking me to a point where I admit I need (deserve) a spanking
    • Less effective: Skipping the lecture completely

    • Effective requiring me to state clearly why she is spanking me
    • Less Effective – Not requiring any sort of statement from me

    • Effective -any hands-on control leading me to where I will be spanked - combined with her taking pants down.
    • Less Effective- simply ordering me to where she wants me, making me take my pants down.

    • Effective –spanking in bunches, stopping to scold, then resume spanking
    • Less Effective –spanking in one long volley without pause

    • Effective – one or more short intermissions, nose in the corner, bum bare, then a second or third spanking
    • Less Effective –no intermissions

    • Effective adding a nonspeaking punishment to the discipline, such as an extra chore or loss of a privilege
    • Less Effective – using spanking only as the punishment

    • Effective -requires full nudity for the spanking
    • Less Effective -allowing some clothing

    • Effective -requiring me to choose the instrument she will spank with
    • Less Effective –her deciding on what tool to use

    • Requiring a sexual release before spanking
    • Less Effective – no post-orgasm spanking

    Alan

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    1. It's funny, you and I seem so similarly wired in some ways, yet I probably would reverse several items in your list. Though, it's also funny how subtle some of this stuff is and how impressions can change. When I read your post yesterday, I did feel like I would reverse several, but today it feels more nuanced. Here's how they strike me today.

      - Effective: Scolding – making me stand in front of her and answer questions while she lectures, taking me to a point where I admit I need (deserve) a spanking
      • Less effective: Skipping the lecture completely

      [Agreed, but the most effective has been pre-spanking session, when she's called me aside and asked me a series of fact-based questions that lead to the inevitable conclusion that I should be spanked. It hasn't happened often but, when it has, it felt like being on the other side of some of my more effective courtroom cross-examinations.

      But, when her lecture is just kind of marching through in a proforma way how I got to the point of standing naked in front of her waiting for the spanking to begin, I often wish she'd just get to it.]

      • Effective requiring me to state clearly why she is spanking me
      • Less Effective – Not requiring any sort of statement from me

      [I think it's generally more effective for me when she's controlling the discussion and not making me tell her why we're there. Part of my motivation with DD is being taken out of any sense that I am in control, and the more she makes me an active participant, the more it feels like I'm part of some collaboration. That's not what I want. I want her to be solely charge, which involves her imposing it on me, not making me a collaborator in it.]

      • Effective -any hands-on control leading me to where I will be spanked - combined with her taking pants down.
      • Less Effective- simply ordering me to where she wants me, making me take my pants down.

      [We haven't really done the hands-on control thing, but I think I too would see it as effective. I have a strong reaction to spanking drawings that depict the wife holding on strongly to the husband's upper arm and leading him to the place where he will be spanked.]

      • Effective –spanking in bunches, stopping to scold, then resume spanking
      • Less Effective –spanking in one long volley without pause

      [Agreed, though it's relatively recently what she's started doing this. On the other hand, she also hasn't really done one where it is just rapid-fire swats with no pauses at all. I can see how a short but extremely intense spanking like that could be very effective.]

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    2. • Effective – one or more short intermissions, nose in the corner, bum bare, then a second or third spanking
      • Less Effective –no intermissions

      [We haven't done this, but I'm sure that second or third spanking, after a break, would be very effective.]

      • Effective adding a nonspeaking punishment to the discipline, such as an extra chore or loss of a privilege
      • Less Effective – using spanking only as the punishment

      [Agreed. My wife doesn't do this very much, but on the occasions where there has been a non-spanking element, it sticks with you.]

      • Effective -requires full nudity for the spanking
      • Less Effective -allowing some clothing

      [I've always been nude, I think I would like for her to at least try leaving my pants pulled down instead of off. I suspect the decreased mobility and inherent awkwardness of the position would make me feel both more vulnerable and more embarrassed, But, I've learned over time that sometimes these things don't play out like you think they will. For example, Doug mentioned restraints. I thought being restrained would make me feel more vulnerable, but it really didn't.]

      • Effective -requiring me to choose the instrument she will spank with
      • Less Effective –her deciding on what tool to use

      [I guess in some ways I have chosen, by virtue of the fact that I used to bring out our whole collection in a suitcase and she would choose among them, while today I often bring out just her hairbrush and bath brush. What didn't seem to work was her using five or six different implements in one session. About the time I was reaching a point of being taken beyond my perceived limits, she would stop and look through all the items, choose another, and start again. It was distracting. Things really do seem to be work better for us when everything is very simple and efficient.]

      • Requiring a sexual release before spanking
      • Less Effective – no post-orgasm spanking

      [Haven't done it, and kind of hoping it never happens. Which inherently means I have no doubt you're right about its effectiveness.]

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    3. Regarding some of Alan's points: hands-on control is routine in our family. When she announces a spanking, she takes me by the hand or arm and takes me to the hassock, chair, or bed. She tells me to take off my shoes, and then she removes pants and shorts. Then leads me over lap. Uses hands to adjust my position, sometimes to tease during a pause, and of course to spank, Regarding short intermissions, they occur while I remain over he lap, and are used for comments and reprimands. There will always be one when she's done before letting me stand up. And then hands are used again for a hug.

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  21. My wife and I rarely do OTK.
    Unlike some comments here, for punishment, I would prefer the punishment to be more sterile and cold. After all, it’s punishment. I prefer to be like it was growing up. Im usually ordered upstairs, told to drop my pants underwear and bend over the bed. That or we have a large pillow I bend over. She then scolds while she is thrashing me. When finished, sometime we will have intercourse or some form of sexual activity.
    My preference would be for no activity, but it doesn’t work that way at all times. We don’t do maintenance punishment. For me it seems quite contrived. I haven’t been thrashed in a while. My wife is helping a sick family member and I took the reins of handling everything. I spoke with her on the phone yesterday and snapped. Her response was quick and said don’t talk to me with that tone. When I get home you’re getting a beaten young man. Thank goodness she’s a week away, but I apologized. The stress of things have piled up over the past few weeks, but I shouldn’t have spoken to her like that. This is the number one thing I’m thrashed for, and it was me who told her to not tolerate it and punish severely. I’m working on ensuring my attitude changes. I get animated over things I can’t control anyway.
    T

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    1. I definitely get wanting punishment now to feel like punishment growing up, but in my case I don't think of punishments growing up as sterile and cold. I don't remember many of them all that well, but it seems like there was almost always some show of emotion on both sides. I do have a thing for a "business-like" approach, which for some reason I associate with maternal. The best I can articulate it is it's like a mother treating giving a spanking as just one more thing on her list of household to-do items.

      I totally get the stress of things piling up in that kind of situation. After Anne's surgery last year, there was a 10-week period where I was handling pretty much everything around the house and doing a lot of things for her and not getting out much myself. It's no coincidence that near the end of that period we got in several heated arguments. I think my stress level had just hit a level where it didn't take much for me to blow off steam with a quick, nasty retort. My tolerance level for any kind of criticism was at an all-time low.

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  22. It’s interesting to me you and your wife have sex after a spanking. I have only read some of the blog posts here (great btw), but it always felt kind of wrong to me to have sex after a spanking. In a lot of ways I want spanking to be separate from sex, but my wife and I usually do have sex after a spanking. Sadly, a spanking hasnt happened in well over a year, but I think I need to reinvigorate that.

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    1. I fully admit it sends a mixed message. I don't even really remember how we got started with the pattern of having sex after a spanking. I suspect it may have merely been a matter of efficiency. We had young kids when we started DD, and it may have been that those few times when the stars came into alignment for a spanking were also the easiest to have sex.

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