“Nothing is more intolerable than to have to admit to yourself your own errors.” - Ludwig van Beethoven
Hello all. Welcome back to The Disciplinary Couple’s Club. Our weekly on-line gathering of men and women who are in, or would like to be in, a Domestic Discipline relationship.
Once again, before we get started, I would like to thank the female commenters who have recently joined us and to extend an invitation to all others who may be inclined to move from “lurker” to “commenter” status. We like having you around.
I would especially like to thank L. and Miss E. for their candor in discussing the excitement and strong emotions they’ve experienced in giving disciplinary spankings. In our oh-so-very egalitarian society, I suspect it is very hard to admit getting turned on by punishing and exercising control over a partner. So, I applaud them for sharing their feelings so honestly with all of us.
I’m sorry for posting a day late. I had some other things going on yesterday, beginning with shoveling snow in bone-chilling temperatures. I guarantee no one where we live is dressed like this in the great outdoors today.
I’m also sorry that so many are having issues with accessing the blog. Google’s penchant for launching ill-conceived new approaches to access controls for adult materials gets really old. I’ve been reluctant to change platforms, as none of them (particularly free options) are going to be free from technical problems, and some of the popular options also have a mixed record when it comes to censoring adult materials. But, I’ve just about had it with Google at this point. I spent part of last week playing around with the functionality of the WordPress site I’ve been double-posting to for a few months. May I please ask some of you to check it out and leave a comment? I’d like to get feedback, especially from our regular commenters, on the functionality and the look and feel. Here is the link.
This week’s topic is one that I know we’ve addressed fairly recently, but I was having a hard time coming up with anything truly new this week, and there were some developments on this front in my own DD relationship.
A couple of weeks ago, TB posted about his DD plans for the new year:
“In our discussions, she expressed discomfort with disciplining while angry or emotional, preferring to address issues when calm and rational. I explained that delay often meant it didn't happen. She also highlighted that whilst DD is an excellent tool for her, it is more 'ingrained' in me and she often feels the responsibility is uneven, as she processes emotions before deciding on discipline whereas I felt the 'need' soon after any misbehaviour. We agreed to incorporate a new element: me "owning up" to behavior I feel guilty about, discussing it face-to-face rather than through journaling. I (foolishly) suggested this as I explained that I was sometimes left to carry around the 'guilt' created by my behaviour for more time than was comfortable. She asked for some examples, which I relayed from the holiday period and an incident two days previously just to help the discussion. The examples led to a memorable strapping, which, while unexpected, effectively reset our dynamic.
We’ve now agreed that if I fail to confess, she will remind me and increase the punishment. I’m unsure if I’ve been outmaneuvered or if this is a step toward a more mature integration of DD in our relationship. Either way, I’m nervous about this new approach, really not looking forward to my first 'confession' but unsurprisingly I’m committed to maintaining exemplary behavior for now.”
ZM said he and his wife have
also re-instituted a weekly check-in, which likely will result in more
spankings.
Norton and I also had a short exchange about the story “Military Duty Calls” in the DWC’s “Real People” section. It involves a military wife who asks her mother to act as a surrogate disciplinarian for her husband, while she is away on a military deployment, over the husband’s strenuous objections. The process included the husband keeping a diary of any rule violations and behavioral failures, which the mother-in-law would review. A small dispute develops over whether a couple of things should have been reported, but finally the husband misbehaves in a way that uncontestably should have gone into the diary, but he failed to do it. The wife describes what happened next:
“As it happens I heard about it first from Mom and right away I knew that it was something he had tried to hide deliberately, having been caught out with the same thing by me quite a while before. I immediately authorized him to be punished, telling her that I would get Charles to call her after I had spoken with him and she could then make the arrangements to deal with him the following evening.
When I spoke to Charles, I could tell right away that he was 'on edge' and after we got through the usual normal things we spoke about, I asked him if he had anything else to tell me and he confessed. I listened to what he had to say and then told him that he had let both himself and me down badly and for that he would be spanked. I then told him to call Mother right away and to tell her that he was phoning on my instructions to ask her to punish him.
To cut a long story short, she arranged to deal with him the next evening and duly did so leaving one very contrite, well-spanked son-in-law to pull himself together again. I am told that the session was a lot more 'impressive' than even her 'demonstration' before I left!”
I’ve always reacted strongly to comments and stories that involve “owning up” to one’s own bad behavior in a context that will almost certainly result in a hard spanking. The fact that I find such practices morbidly fascinating may explain why I’ve always been so bad at adhering to any reporting regime.
Though, honestly, I don’t think it has that much to do with the prospect of the spanking in and of itself. It’s more about the embarrassment I feel in both confessing to some personal failing and, in effect, asking for a spanking for it. Both the confessing and the asking are independently embarrassing, and I have a strong aversion to embarrassment. That’s why stories like “Military Duty Calls” strike such a chord with me. It’s incredibly hard for me to give Anne a live confession, knowing that it will result in a spanking. It’s hard for me to even imagine the embarrassment of having to confess to some other person and then get myself ready for a spanking from her (or him).
(Another aspect of the story that resonates strongly with me is that the husband receives a follow-up spanking upon the wife’s return. I’ve always had a thing for anything that involves a spanking in one setting being followed by another at home. It’s undoubtedly a reaction rooted in the custom when I was growing up of the school sending a note home letting parents know that a spanking had been given, which inevitably resulted in another at home.)
Yet, Anne and I are making another attempt at weekly in-person behavior reviews or “check-ins.” We tried such a system last spring to help me get over a period in which I felt like I had let life get very stagnant and unproductive. It was short-lived, thanks to some intervening travel that was followed almost immediately with the onset of the medical/injury issues that put our entire DD dynamic on hold for months, but it really did seem to help me get on top of some chronic procrastination problems. Anne also enjoyed the power of being in charge of the sessions, evaluating my performance and giving me directions and commands for the week ahead.
Now that our lives are getting a little closer to normal, we’re giving the check-ins another try. I suggested that, before each meeting, I would give her a written “report” of the previous week, using a form that I modified from a form that, if I remember correctly, Glenmore posted several years ago. Here is my version.
Anne likes the concept, and I later came up with a twist on it. She will fill out the same form each week, and during our check-in, we will compare the two. If she notes misbehavior that I failed to “own up to,” that may result in an additional spanking, on top of whatever the behavior itself earned. The other benefit I foresee is it will help her get into the mindset of not just noticing bad behavior but documenting it and acting on it. If I’m “owning up” to lots of behavior that she’s not documenting, it probably means she’s being too forgiving and not strict enough. So, my hope is that over time it will reinforce her authority and make her more quick and consistent in exercising it.
Another aspect of the system is that I will be printing my electronic “to-do” list each week and putting it on open display in our kitchen. The vast majority of the items on the list aren’t things Anne cares about. But, the idea is to make sure that I’m regularly documenting things I need to get done and checking them off the list regularly. The check-in form has a line for documenting—again, from both our perspectives—how I’m doing. It’s another effort at nipping the chronic procrastination thing in the bud. As I write this, I’ve been thinking about a couple of items I want to check off the to-do list today, because I’m aware I have a check-in coming up in a few days. That itself is progress.
FYI, we decided to our check-ins on Wednesdays, instead of at the end or beginning of the calendar week. My thought was that our weekends tend to be busy and sometimes one of us is tied up or away from the other on the weekends. Also, it’s pretty clear that my biggest behavioral failures around over-indulging seem to happen near the end of the work week, because that tends to be when I get together with friends. The soreness from a spanking early in the week would have dissipated by the weekend, but I would almost certainly be sitting on a sore butt during a Thursday or Friday happy hour after a spanking on Wednesday. Hopefully, it will serve the same purpose as a “preventative” spanking.
How do the rest of you handle “owning up” to bad behavior? Or, do you do so at all? If so, do you find it as difficult as I do? Is it because of the inherent embarrassment of openly confessing to some personal failure? Or is it that you are, in effect, asking for a spanking?
One aspect of the discussion with Anne on this was particularly interesting to me, as it shows how attitudes about aspects of DD can change over time. Anne said that she really likes observing the embarrassment and anxiety I experience in “owning up” to my bad behavior. Yet, I distinctly recall that, early on in our DD experimentation, she said she didn’t like me directly asking to be spanked, because it felt like I was controlling the process instead of her. She felt like it undermined her authority. Why the change? I suspect it’s because her authority is now much more firmly established in her own mind, so she no longer worries as much about me undermining it by asking for what we both know I have coming.
How about the other wives? How do you feel about your husband owning up to his bad behavior? Is it something you want or expect him to do? Is there any formal process for doing it, like a check-in or in-person report? Does it empower you to have him confess his shortcomings, or do you see it as undermining your own authority to determine what does and does not merit a spanking or other punishment?
Have a great week.
ReplyDeleteInteresting questions. As I think I recounted a few weeks ago, I was looking to have a slight reset in the new year as I felt that there had been some inconsistency and - to put it bluntly - I was getting away with stuff I shouldn’t. We did have the conversation and her response was that it was for her alone to decide if something merited punishment, and not for me to decide. On confessing to stuff she isn’t aware of, I have no problem with that. I’ve mentioned before that it did happen a couple of years ago when I did something particularly aggressive and stupid when driving - I was lucky that there was no accident caused by it. She was not present and couldn’t possibly have known about it if I hadn’t told her. My view is - and was - that the feelings of guilt far outweighed the awkwardness of telling her about it and the severe spanking that resulted was necessary for me, to wipe away that guilt. TG
I've had that happen a few times that the guilt I felt about something was significant enough that I asked for a spanking. But, the impediment is the embarrassment I sometimes feel about admitting a big personal failure. If I'm feeling that much guilt about something, the odds are good that I also don't want to tell her about it because I don't like the way it reflects on me.
Delete" her response was that it was for her alone to decide if something merited punishment"
DeleteThis is the gold standard. Men wanting discipline from a partner should understand and respect this. It must be her decision. That is what makes it real.
Alan
Dan,
ReplyDeleteGreat topic and we are experiencing severe weather in our neck of the woods as we well. I’m similar to you and your experiences as well. I still cannot bring myself to ask my wife for a thrashing. I’m embarrassed and humiliated by the idea of it. There are times when I know I deserve it and she gives me a pass. The other evening we were intimate, and I confessed some more of my desires surrounding DD to her. I expressed my adoration for her and for fulfilling my needs surrounding the need for DD. I told her, I feel our intimacy is brought to another level when she disciplines me. I reiterated my love for her and asked her to step up punishment for any misdeeds. I mentioned on the blog, one time I asked for a thrashing. We had an argument over the summer, rare for us, and I raised my voice. I called her from the golf course and apologized for my behavior. I told her I was out of line and had a tremendous amount of guilt. I asked her to absolve me of this guilt. I needed to be severely strapped. She did so and I regretted asking. She administered the discipline in a stern, cold, calculating way. In her mind, it seemed like she went back to me raising my voice to her. I mentioned this in bed and reiterated how I needed this from her. She agreed and noticed how much better I behaved toward her after a thrashing. I thanked her for listening and a reset to the start of the year. I promised to behave and asked her to punish me for my attitude, laziness, snarkiness, or raising my voice. I like the idea of having a reset at the beginning of the year. As far as the checklist goes, I brought up the idea of a weekly checkin, but I’m tasked driven and my wife not so much. So for us, DD will be strictly for the above mentioned items. I though about using it for over consumption, but outside of vacation, I’ve curtailed my alcohol intake. I think I’m doing another cleanse after the Super Bowl for one month. I will take a look at Word press. I haven’t had a chance to check the site out yet.
T
Your comment highlights one of the challenges with asking for a spanking. As you're getting it, you likely will regret asking. Yet, in your case, a few months later you are emphasizing to her that the kind of strapping she gave you is what you need more of.
DeleteT,
DeleteI can't overemphasise how helpful consistency was for J. and me in our marriage!
L.
Do you have a link for the Wordpress blog please ? TG
ReplyDeleteSorry, intended to put that in the post, which I've now done. But, here it is.https://disciplinedhubbies.wordpress.com/
DeleteJ.'s view on the subject was that if he didn't report things, he was ultimately only cheating himself, given the intended corrective effect of F/M DD spanking. He was highly committed to self-improvement throughout his adult life. I was grateful to have a husband who was that way. As far as I'm concerned, if a husband isn't committed, it won't make much difference in the long run.
ReplyDeleteThat said, we did our thing on a certain amount of trust, so the level of detail provided by a report would have been superfluous. Also, neither of us wanted to overthink or overcomplicate things. The perfect solution is often the enemy of the practical solution. I don't criticise those who find it helpful though.
Regarding undermining my authority to decide, firstly, I would make my decision regardless, but on the other hand, I always gave him a "base-level spanking" anyway, so we were never too focused on the quantities too much.
L.
L, In my opinion, you and your husband have the correct idea about how real DD should function. It's the husband's responsibility to report on things you have both agreed on that should result in a spanking. If he fails to do so, he is not only be cheating himself, he is also not living up to his agreement with his wife. You say you are grateful to have a husband who feels that way. Hopefully, he understands how lucky he is to have a wife who will give him the boundaries and discipline he needs. It took most of my life to find the right woman to do that for me, and I have never been happier.
ReplyDeleteNorton,
DeleteJ. was definitely grateful to have found a woman who was able to be won over for an F/M DD marriage and was willing to persist with it till the end, and so early in life as well. How long did it take you to get to your current situation?
I never formalised the idea of punishing for undeclared wrongs, but the underlying understanding was that self-confessed wrongs would receive a lower punishment. This appeared (in conjunction with other things) to work throughout our marriage from start to finish.
L.
L, the first time I experienced being in a DD relationship was in my 70s. I had been
DeleteInto F/M spanking for a long time, but didn’t realize what I really wanted and needed was to be held accountable to a strong assertive woman with firm boundaries.
Norton,
DeleteShame you missed out on decades of benefits, but glad you found what you were looking for in the end. J. definitely agreed that the younger the better (once an adult, that is): a lot of men would gain so much if they got married early and had an F/M DD marriage!
L.
Regarding your WordPress versions, I don't like that you have to "subscribe" the blog and get a lot of crap in your email in order to post a simply comment, or reply to comment.
ReplyDeleteIs there way to disable this?
Also, does the WordPress blog allow people to "thread" comments, at least one or two layers deep, as blogspot blogs allow? (A long, linear sequence of all comment, linear by comment date and time, makes it very hard to distinguish who is responding to what.
I wasn't aware that there is some kind of subscription requirement. I can try to figure out whether it can be disabled, but this is one of my challenges in transitioning . . . I don't know WordPress very well.
DeleteNot sure about threading comments.
I think I figured out the subscription thing, and I think it is disabled. Take a look again and see whether it's still happening.
DeleteAccording to the current settings, threaded comments are allowed up to three levels deep.
Sorry, Dan, I'm I can no longer do that "subscription testing."
DeleteI did subscribe to make one "test comment," thus WordPress do not require me to "re-subscribe;" it got my email and apparently will use it -- at least until I myself figure out how to cancel.
TG. sorry, I think I accidentally deleted your comment regarding the WordPress version.
ReplyDeleteThe comment link is a little hard to find. If you look on the left-hand side, right under the post title, you should see the date of the post, and right below that there is a link that either says "Leave a Comment" or something like "1 comment". Click on that and then page all the way down.
It is pretty klugy.
I stays use the phone rather than the computer and there doesn’t appear to be any date or content button on the left - or anywhere else that I can find. There is a button telling me that there is one comment, and if I click that I can reply to the comment, but I can’t find a way of responding to the post itself. Also, my other point was that the whole thing shows as a single thread rather than being split into separate, weekly pages. TG
DeleteTG:
DeleteJust like BlogSpot, WordPress allows you to click-select the title of each week's subject, that way opening that subject in it own page, with all comments listed at the end of Dan's introduction.
Once one weeks subject is opened, you can then scroll down to the very bottom and start adding comment(s), sequentially.
ALSO, DAN:
I went back to the original WordPress article I had "test-commented" upon. Second time around I noticed that under each individual comment there is a link titled "Reply." I tried making a "reply comment" it was threaded/indented under the original comment. No difference in background shading (unlike BlogSpot). I tried once again to Reply to a Reply, but there does not appear to be any "Reply" botton under "Replies." Right now, threading appears to be only "one layer deep." However, this is something you might be able to modify with WordPress's controls.
For reference, I was test-commenting on your posting of "/2025/01/06/the-club-meeting-503-goals-and-resolutions-for-2025". My test-comments are about three comments from the top.
DeleteAnother possible "WordPress Control-Panel" question: Is there a way to enable any way to "self identify" OTHER THAN (1) A peron's WordPress Registered Moniker, and (2) "Anonymous"? (I.E., A way to type in a pseudonim for each reply, like I do with Donn for each of replies here on Blogspot?)
DeleteFinally, one feature that would be really, REALLY nice to enable, but don't know if it exists on WordPress. (I have never seen a WordPress blog with the feature.) Is it possible to setup the right-margin's "past posting archive" to include expanding thread for each month; threads that actually list the titles of each week's post/subject? (As I said, I have never seen this on WP, only long lists of "months," or a "selection box" (with another long list of "months." The way that Blogspot allows such expansion to individual posting titles is very useful for finding individual past titles for review / quotation extraction.)
TG: Not sure about the phone. I just tested it on mine (iPhone).. Right under the display of a post there is a bar with options for Comments, Reblog and Subscribe. When I click on comments, it takes me to the current comments and at the bottom is the box for entering my own comment.
DeleteDonn: Not sure what to do about the threaded comments. As I said, the settings do allow for threaded comments and I already have that option enabled.
Also, it would be helpful if people would test comment on the CURRENT post, not those further back. I tried to import all blogger posts, and I now have a klugy mix of new and imported posts and a hodge-podge of anonymous comments. Given that the current post was done after I made several setting changes, I can track what is going on better if people comment on that current post and don't go further back.
DeleteOkay, this morning is moving right along, a I've got a busy day, but once last comment and observation re WP:
DeleteDan, you know that the Blogspotosphere is a closed community. It is is very difficult for Blogspot blogs to automatically link to your WP blog (must be manually inserted); impossible for those "BS" blogs (no, "BS" not a comment on Google, but somewhat apropos); to automatically update with the current subject matter / titles of WP posts. Since it likely, due to currently relatively small number of DD blogs on WP, a complete move of "disciplinedhubbies" to WP will result in a substantial and continuing decline in new readers visiting this forum; a substantial decline in new commenters.
To partly compensate, you might want to "double post" the title of each weeks WP posting onto a small, once weekly posting onto current Blogspot entity along with a direct link to main entry page of replacement WP blog.
Longer term, the old DWC site did have a "links page," but it was never very well developed. Adding your new WP blog to those links (on much better links page), or possibly even putting link to WP blog on DWC's main page menu would work even better. (There are no other blogs like yours so dedicated to the DWC's philosophy and technique). A link, right up front on DWC's main page, could be a "shining beacon" -- could actually generate more traffic / readers and more comments on the WP blog than ever existed in the BS blog!
(Yes, I have continued to work "cleaning up" /HTML-2 standardizing the old DWC's html-coded content. I've pretty much finished all of the "Real People's" and "Fictional" entries and pages. Them, I'll be start cleaning up, and possibly adding elements to, the DWC's main menu. Then, I can start work on the remainder of menu-subsidiary pages.)
I think it's pretty hard to predict what a complete move would mean for readership. Looking at the last month, there were about 35k views of the Blogger version and 9k of the Wordpress version. But, as far as I know, no other DD or spanking-oriented blogs link to the WP version. The vast majority of my referrals from other blogs come from two or three blogs, mostly Julie and Hermione's respective blogs. I could simply ask them to change their links to the WP version. Further, I haven't replied to *any* comments on the WP version up until now or done anything to try to actually build it into any sort of community. As for search engines, the Blogger version does appear at the top of a Google search, but the WP version is right below it.
DeleteDan, the problem of getting to your site has disappeared.
DeleteNow google allows me to get on as easily as it did before.
Good to know. Thanks, Norton.
DeleteI'm glad that other members are finding it easier to access "Disciplined Hubbies."
DeleteHowever, it looks like Google has only implemented a "partial" solution. Most of the problems I previously noted for other websites (Google not recognizing / validating ) my Google Account remain in force.
I guess we have to take and appreciate whatever crumbs Google tosses our way.
I'm pleased to see you're using your own version of my Husbznd Report Card Dan . I hope it works for you and Anne
ReplyDeleteThe only modification I suggest for your version would be to add a section at the bottom to br signed by Anne and yourself , that the punishment was carried out including the time and date and an optional comment from Anne.
I found signing this after having my rump roasted very humbling and she quite enjoyed knowing the spanking did the job.
We don't do regulat formal checkups anymore and now we are both retired and together more often she knows when I've done something to deserve a spanking without the need of a reminder from me, although it does include verbal acceptance of the offence.
We'll see whether this experiment with reporting forms gets any more traction than my past efforts. The track record so far is not good.
DeleteLooking forward to hear your account of how it goes..
DeleteWhat do people here think about the implicit idea that when it comes to reporting (and, I suppose, administering an F/M DD marriage more generally), less is more? In other words, can you get the best systems if you have an optimal level of complexity? I.e. too little structure meaning lack of direction can sidetrack things, but too much structure turning it into a chore (as well as bringing various other unintended consequences)?
ReplyDeleteI believe that approach turned out to be helpful throughout my marriage to J.
L.
“ I.e. too little structure, meaning lack of direction can sidetrack things, but too much structure turning it into a chore.”
DeleteThis is timely for us. Recently, my wife and I discussed “structure”. She says that at this point, the only structure she wants is: “because I said so.” . She remains willing (even eager) to tell me WHY I am being spanked. But she wants the freedom to decide WHAT I am being spanked for ( or otherwise disciplined) without a long discussion about rules and expectations; She wants to cut through all that. Getting to that point has taken time and building trust, but I am comfortable with it. It isn’t very different from “any time, any place, or any reason,” But there is an immediacy about it.
Alan
We have been frustrated in our efforts to gain access to this blog. I found the reference to the DWC letter about the mother in law in charge., when we read this he recalled me threatening to call my mom when he crossed the line, My mom has been gone for years but her strop is still in use.
DeleteL., I generally agree with "less is more" with some caveats. For us, I think the primary application of that principle has been our changing approach to the disciplinary sessions themselves. Particularly when the kids were still living with us, it often had to be at the right time (when they were asleep when little or gone as they got older), the right place (somewhere that sound didn't carry), pre-scheduled, and we had made them into multi-implement, multi-position affairs. A couple of years ago, we started simplifying things substantially. I know Anne saw the simplified approach as freeing. With each spanking seeming less of a big production, she was more inclined to order them more often.
DeleteMy big caveat around formality is suggested by Alan's comment. It can be a matter of timing vis-a-vis the DD relationship as a whole. In the early days of a DD relationship, formality can be helpful, particularly for the wives who have been hit cold with a request to implement a DD relationship. Rules around what is punishable and under what circumstances can help them gain confidence. And, it can help the husband give in and take a spanking even when he wants to object, as it's harder to argue with the application of a rule you agreed to or even requested. But, as Alan says, in longer-term DD relationships, rules and formality probably cease to play a meaningful role and can even get in the way.
That said, we're obviously moving in a somewhat different direction. To a large extent, that's because I had specific issues around procrastination and stagnation that I wasn't dealing with on my own. But, we've also had long-standing problems with consistency. So, even 20 years into this, we both recognized that a bit more formality might be helpful, though it's still in service of empowering her.
Alan, I suppose if I we had been interested in doing things that way, we would have opted for an outcomes-based way of doing things, rather than a rules-based way of doing things. For instance, it might have been an outcome like say J. behaving in a way that causes loss of face, rather than trying to account for every situation in the rules and him looking to see how he could "play the system", i.e. deliberately doing things that are technically within the rules, but still cause me a lot of problems and display poor character traits.
DeleteAs it happens, as far as I can remember, J. never ever did something like this, for which I am grateful. As mentioned, he took the view that as a responsible adult, if he cheats the system, he is only cheating himself.
That said, we never really favoured the "because I said so" way of doing things, mainly because it involves capricious ways of administering punishments. Granted, I always gave J. a "base-level spanking" before intimacy, but we reasoned that if you get to the stage where there is no proportionality between the offences and the spankings received, spanking will quickly lose its corrective effect.
Miss C., hope you got the outcomes you ultimately wanted, though I admit, J. and I always preferred any "intimate" punishments to stay between us. That said, this didn't preclude seeking advice from other women about how to run a relationship like this! Sometimes, we women can give each other encouragement!
L.
L and Alan,
DeleteI agree with the point on too much structure can become a chore. I think my expectations of DD when we started were much different than hers. I expected the whole rigmarole of the scolding, lowering of the pants, the humiliation factor and so on. She came from it from a different angle. I think it became too much of a long drawn out process. I reiterated to her that I would never refuse to bend over for a thrashing. If I didn’t agree, we could discuss it after. As for Alan’s wife, we aren’t at the because I said so level. That seems to take on a more FLR approach. Because we don’t have a necessary list of rules and regulations to follow, my wife administers punishment when she sees fit. Infractions sometime build up as life gets in the way. The punishment is much more streamlined now. It’s I’m tire of you tude, get upstairs and bend over. We were having a discussion about her best friend in another state today. She is at wits end with her marriage. She couldn’t understand how, we have remained so intimate all these years. Her friend can’t stand her husband and they are on the outs. My wife frankly said to her, I beat him when he’s out of line. She knew this already but she reiterated it to her on the phone. Instead of being embarrassed and changing the subject this time, I said well she should try it on him. Obviously, they are past that stage and there is no turning around. She was a bit jealous of the fact that my wife has a man who’s respectful, provides, and so on. On a side note, we were taking down decorations and we had one of those decorations shaped like a paddle with Santa on it. She smacked me with it about ten times. When done, she told me to order a wood paddle immediately.
T
T.,
DeleteI definitely understand this feeling and I can remember a similar discussion with J. relatively recently. He was in his ceremonial military uniform following a function and we had an argument. When we had put the children to bed, we went to the bedroom. He pulled the back of his trousers and underpants down, fixed the jacket so it was out the way and then leaned against the wall, pressing with his palms. I then gave him the hardest spanking I remember giving him for a while before them. He apologised and thanked me. I did another session with him wearing just his underpants pulled down at the back for good measure. During the subsequent intimacy with him on top, he remarked on how wonderful it was to have a means of drawing a line underneath things like this, while other couples remained sore at each other and how other wives should do what we do, and I mentioned how other women had commented on J.'s good nature, which he was happy to hear.
L.
L,
DeleteRules-based contrasted with outcomes-based is an interesting way to think about it all -maybe particularly if managing behavior was emphasized as opposed to punishment for disobedience or failure to conform to a rule. If you care to develop further the difference, it would be valuable.
One point about my wife’s “Because I said so”: I see how that could become capricious and even abusive in a new DD relationship. In fact, it would be a bad idea in a newer relationship. But our relationship has always incorporated DD to focus on damage or harm to our relationship or my health. Some things fall outside those parameters, but we both understand tha most anything “spankable” falls into those categories.
My professional behavior was discussed, but my work was rarely the subject of discipline. She is also not liable to wake up some mornings and decide something never discussed before is suddenly punishable. I understand her expectations very well, and as they change, she will clarify that. But the “because I say so” rule right now gives her the freedom to “dare to discipline” without second-guessing herself.
We also have long-established rules about how I can appeal a spanking, and I have standing permission to question the reasons for a spanking briefly before it happens and at length after it has been administered. I am enthusiastic about this newer because I say so” policy. But if it does not work, we will adjust. DD is a dynamic experience.
Alan
Alan,
DeleteIt may not be an exact division, but what I mean is I didn't decide whether or not to punish J. depending on whether or not he fell one side of the technicalities of the rules, but whether or not his behaviour caused upset, either to me or whoever, through not doing something, weakness or his own deliberate acts. It didn't include things that were clearly accidental. If there was no obvious bad outcome, but he did something through clear ill motives, that is another reason. This isn't an exhaustive list, but the basic principle was that J. didn't get out of a spanking because he managed to "game the system" and stay technically within the rules
I don't remember J. protesting about my decision once the facts were established, though he occasionally said things if my understanding of the facts was simply wrong, but he emphasised that he trusted me to make a sound decision.
In terms of overall outcomes, it kept our married life happy from start to finish and there aren't any substantive things I would have done differently. It was definitely nice to have a husband's bottom like J.'s to spank all that time, as well as other physical punishments at my disposal.
Does that answer the questions you had up till this message Alan?
L.
L,
DeleteThanks for the response. I like the fact that J took ownership for his actions. Was it he that initiated going to the bedroom and pulling his pants down or was that at your command. I still have a hard time requesting a thrashing. I don’t want one at the time, but know I deserve one. Yes, the intimacy that we share afterwards is one I’ve never experience with another women. My wife is getting much better with initiating one when I’m out of line. My encouragement of her afterwards and my changed attitude proves it’s working.
T
Alan, this is close to our situation. As I said earlier, I felt some inconsistency and wanted to ramp it up a bit this year, but when I broached it, her reaction was that whether to punish is her decision alone and if she chooses not to, that’s it. It can mean that I may retain feelings of guilt for something, that I have to deal with, but I know that sometimes she feels that is just one more chore on her list in a very busy life. TG
DeleteL,
DeleteThanks for the clarification. it sounds like your policies were very similar to hers -sorting out the priorities without too much "small print"
Alan
TG,
Delete" whether to punish is her decision alone" is where I think most men want and need to be. We can drop hints and make suggestions and those are heard, but she not only needs to feel she is driving the bus --but she needs to be actually driving the bus,
Alan
"" whether to punish is her decision alone" is where I think most men want and need to be."
DeleteHonestly, I think that's the case only if there is a general agreement about--and adherence to--a level of strictness that serves both parties' needs and wants. Probably the #1 complaint voiced by men here over the years--by a long shot--is lack of consistency, with wanting a more strict overall approach a close and related #2. I agree that ideally the more discretion she has the better, but I don't think it works well if the discretion mostly seems to get exercised in favor of being lax, letting things slide, not addressing things that both parties have said should be addressed. When men say that want her to spank whenever she feels it's appropriate, the unstated premise seems to be they want it to be up to her in terms of spanking *more* not less and with more consistency, not more arbitrarily or haphazardly.
Dan
DeleteI do agree with what you are saying here. Laissez-faire doesn’t work in economics or DD relationships. But neither does pestering or nagging for a spanking -or worse, bratting behavior to provoke a spanking. There has to be a middle ground, and communication does that. As a couple, we benefit enormously from a spanking she administers over things important to her—compared to a spanking I bring to her attention or provoke.
Btw, self-reporting is similar. She asks me about behavior we have discussed, and when she asks, I try to be completely truthful about it, even if it brings on a spanking. However, she usually does not want or expect me to bring things to her attention that she has not inquired about. (there are exceptions) We are at the point where she is responding to the things that matter to her -and I for sure don’t want more frequent spankings.
Does she miss things that ought to be punished? Occasionally, she does. But since retirement, little prevents her from acting -and she is giving warnings more often. “Because I say so,” it seems to me an exciting little journey; if it isn’t, we can deal with that.
Alan
Alan, agreed. J. and I decided fairly early on that we definitely didn't want to overthink things, as we thought it would have many negative consequences, such as making it less enjoyable for me, creating a compliance-in-letter outlook (rather than compliance-in-spirit), making it harder to do when tired or short of time etc.
DeleteRegarding being a backseat driver, J. never wanted that, because he felt it would be another example of cheating and only cheating oneself.
I agree with what you said just before this comment about predictability: I am sure many couples' attempts to maintain the habit have been compromised because the predictability made it a chore, rather than something with a spark!
Dan, my experience with my marriage to J. from start to finish was that giving him a set daily spanking made it easier to keep up the habit: since our habits compelled us to start, after starting, all I had to do was adjust the technique, strength, length etc, which was always easier than pushing ourselves to do it when we weren't about to.
When you say "discretion", I assume you mean the wife deciding to exercise her right to spank her husband, rather than her keeping quiet about it.
L.
Dan,
ReplyDeleteI definitely see why structure is useful under the circumstances described. Regarding the issues alluded to, I suppose the ways J. and I managed the issue (imperfectly, of course) throughout the length of our marriage were as follows:
1) A routine of a daily spanking
2) Firm routines regarding children
3) Sometimes using instruments that didn't make so much noise
4) Using sound attenuation with both the walls and sound attenuation dividers within the room for extra protection
We stumbled while implementing these things on countless occasions, and they required some forethought and practice to get them right, but they ultimately helped us keep up the habit of F/M DD spanking all the way through our marriage.
L.
About half a year ago, partially inspired by some of the advice and comments on this blog, my husband and I began the practice of weekly check-ins. Every Saturday or Sunday we try to set aside an hour or so to discuss the previous week and any goals for the upcoming one. This practice took our dynamic to the next level and increased our trust/foundation within our dd. It has helped hold both of us accountable with consistency and dedicating time to this aspect of our relationship, regardless of how busy life seems to get. Yesterday we had our check-in, and for the first time since we began, my husband had not broken any of the rules or been disobedient for the entire week. I was extremely proud of him, but as I mentioned in my comment on the previous post -"lately he has been working so hard to be truly obedient, which I admire, appreciate, and reward, but I also miss being able to push him with a punishment spanking and watch him fully give himself over physically in submission", I am considering how best to proceed. This week, I plan on discussing with him how he feels regarding this. I certainly don't want to punish him if he has not earned it, nor do I want him to feel disheartened within our dynamic. However, whenever he has not earned a punishment, I miss the connection and intimacy that comes through spanking him, yet I'm hesitant to do "just because" or maintenance spankings as they do not give him anything emotionally or physically. And it leaves me feeling selfish.
ReplyDeleteI had him read the previous post during our check-in and he journaled his answers to the questions about which emotions spanking evokes for him. He told me that he loves our dynamic and benefits from it, but the act of spanking itself (though it does help keep him in line) is something that he does more-so to 'feed' me. He said generally he feels anxiety beforehand for the pain, and then simply a rush of relief afterwards that it is now over. That being said however, he noticed that he feels more submissive or as if he is giving his submission to me through his acts of obedience within our daily lives, but during the act of spanking, it is hard for him to access subspace or mentally submit as his entire focus is simply on getting through the pain. There have been a few occasions where he reached subspace or submitted in a spanking within a mental capacity, but it has been rare.
I remember reading a comment last week from someone who said that his wife pausing every few minutes throughout a spanking to scold him helped add in a more mental and emotional aspect to the punishment. Any other ideas on how to incorporate a more mental aspect rather than just him gritting through the physical pain? I want his mental vulnerability and submission during a spanking, as I feel that would not only be an incredible gift but also take our dynamic to the next level in a way.
Dear Miss E,
DeleteThere is no question for many, if not most, of us that spanking builds intimacy. It is also possible that a mature, responsible husband may have often have weeks with not seriously bad behavior. That is, after all, the goal -- is it not? There are many ways to incorporate the spanking including the ways you mentioned. If those don't work, you could give him a "good boy" spanking that could be fun for both of you and DEFINITELY distinguishable from a disciplinary spanking. It could also be productive in encouraging more weeks of good behavior, which I trust would be a welcome and acceptable outcome.
I realize that option is antithetical to some readers on this site, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
Graham
Miss E.,
DeleteYou’re quite the opposite of most women on the site as you enjoy administering a spanking. My wife did not at first and only recently admitted to enjoying seeing me writhe and squirm. For us, it would be counter productive to take a spanking when I’ve done nothing wrong during the week. I think you should reward his behavior in other ways. This could be his favorite sexual position or could be his favorite meal. Maybe an outing with his buddies. Something but spanking. After all, his behavior has significantly improved. Maintenance has never worked for us. I can’t see us ever just going through the motions of it. For us it would become mundane. I agree with some of the other comments about pausing during a thrashing. My mind set is the same. Grin and bear it. Ours tend to be between 6-8 minutes. I think if my wife started slowly and built up it would be more beneficial. I think this would help with sub space. I’ve been there a few times and it’s quite a place to be in. I’ll reiterate that the intimacy level afterwards between us is on a different level. I do admit I wish my wife would do something to make me a bit more vulnerable during the punishment. We probably should do corner time or something to make me reflect on the punishment given.
T
Miss E, I think it depends on how you define “maintenance.” For us, a maintenance spanking will have more of a warm up but it will still end up hard enough to have me squirming and unable to sit down comfortably for a while, so it’s still definitely a real spanking. But my preference would still be to receive this at least weekly. A punishment, when necessary, is however at a totally different level and my preference would be to earn this as rarely as possible. TG
DeleteI think the issue with Graham's solution is it assume that your husband is into spanking so much that he would be into "good boy" spankings in the first place and see them as a reward. From what you've conveyed in the past, that doesn't seem to be the case. It sounds like he likes and wants--or has come to like and want--the dynamic of you being in control and holding him accountable, but am I correct that he doesn't have a spanking fetish and isn't so into spanking for spanking's sake? I know I personally would get zip from being spanked as a "reward" but we're all wired differently.
DeleteGraham, this is a good idea and similar to what I did during my marriage to J.: if there was nothing specific to punish for that day, the spanking was different, but doing it every day come rain or shine helped keep us in the habit.
DeleteT., I have to admit I did actually enjoy spanking J.! In the beginning, I struggled to admit that, but as a result of time and J.'s reassurance that there was nothing wrong with this, I later found myself consciously enjoying it every time I spanked him from that turning point until the end!
T.G., the comparable spankings I gave J. were similarly distinctive from each other, though I admit I can't put my thoughts into words very easily.
Dan, I never spanked J. as a reward as such, but I think it is useful for men to get into the habit of having spankings regularly, whatever the reason, even if it is only for the wife's pleasure. J. and I thought it should be a normal part of a functional marriage.
L.
Ms. E, both you and L are unusual in that you really enjoy giving disciplinary spankings. Many wives do not, and neither does my G/F. However, there is an undeniable intimacy that comes with a disciplinary spanking.
DeleteI would never do anything deliberately to earn a disciplinary spanking, but when I do earn one, I tend to look at it as an opportunity for us to be intimate. We do practice check ins and maintenance spankings, but they don't usually have the drama nearly as much as disciplinary spankings. As far as the earlier discussion about rules, the more she can simply decide she is going to give me a spanking, the better, as far as I am concerned. I want her to be in charge as much as she feels comfortable with, and trust her to not abuse her authority.
Norton wrote: “… are unusual in that you really enjoy giving disciplinary spankings.”
DeleteI believe a “natural” female disciplinarian ( a very awkward term) is (or was) rare. But, the continuing beat down of patriarchal culture should be changing that. There would be many more “naturals” if the barrage of negative cultural conditioning did not suppress them.
But beyond making that point, I believe there are actually quite a few women who come to enjoy disciplinary spanking that initially did not want or were unaware of it. That was certainly true for the woman who initiated me into DD. She was a classic vanilla, but she was teaching me about DD within months. It has also been true for my wife, who began spanking on the other end of the paddle. Several commentators on the blog have confirmed similar experiences. Discovering spanking can be as much an evolution for the women we love as it is for us.
Alan
"...his wife pausing every few minutes throughout a spanking to scold him helped add in a more mental and emotional aspect to the punishment..."
DeleteMiss E, almost spanking I've ever gotten has been punctuate by pauses, usually for a brief scolding or reminder why I'm being punished. Sometimes she remains silent and lets me think about it. But it certainly enhances the experience for me, and lets her quietly enjoy this exercise of her authority. Ir also adds some suspense, as i'm not sure whether it's a pause or indicates that the spanking will soon be over.
Norton, wives should definitely not feel bad about enjoying it!
DeleteAlan, I suppose the naturals thing can work both ways: J. was a bit of a macho man and being able to take it, no matter how hard, was something he saw as not to be sniffed at! He had a bit of a "leather butt" by the end!
Tom, I agree that the suspense is useful: J. remarked that it is harder to steel oneself for a spanking if there is some ambiguity.
L.
L, it's wonderful that you enjoy giving disciplinary spankings and don't feel bad about enjoying it. Most of us guys wish the women who spank us enjoyed it also. Alan makes a good point about "the barrage of negative social conditioning" you have overcome in order to arrive at this point. Women who learn to be comfortable being dominant enough to spank their husbands also enjoy having more confidence in other areas of their lives. That has proven to be true in our relationship. It is also great relief for us guys to not have to always feel we need to be in charge. DD helps us become more sensitive, attentive, and less macho, thus better behaved partners.
DeleteMiss E, this is to respond to your post Jan 20th at 3:04, about your desire to give disciplinary spankings to your husband when he has done nothing to earn them. One solution that has been covered here before was from a husband in the DWC. It is called "A husband's essay" and the solution was that every so often, the wife would give an unearned, but very real, disciplinary spanking on certain days during the year. They could happen on birthdays and other holidays, or whatever you decide on. This always seemed like a good idea to me, but we haven't tried it. Others have suggested different types of punishments, but to me, there really is nothing that comes close to an actual disciplinary spanking to achieve his maximum mental vulnerability and submission, as well as the intimacy for both of you after a disciplinary spanking.
DeleteNotrton, I suppose when it comes to things done in the privacy of one's room, it is less likely that social conditioning will be a factor. It is hard to argue that a spanking done on a fully consenting husband who even suggested it is somehow wrong. But yes, it was somewhat out the ordinary at first. Then something called "normalisation of deviance" might have been applicable. At a wider level, I hope the Overton window will shift in favour of F/M DD spanking, as with other related physical punishments a wife might use on her husband.
DeleteNorton, J. and I were well aware of "A Husband's Essay". I am also an advocate of women spanking their husbands even when there is no disciplinary reason. J. was a big man, so foreplay was essential for things not to be very uncomfortable, and using physical punishments on him also brought intimacy. They were effective with both these purposes until the end.
L.
Miss E:
DeleteI agree with Norton that "A Husbands Essay" is an excellent reference, and description for other types of spankings than "punitive." In fact, there are many other types of spankings that can be quite intense, but do not meet a formal definition of "Punishment" ("Something painful or aversve designed or intended to change behavior").
The type of "Therapeutic Spanking" (therapy for the wife) described therein can also be therapeutic for a husband. In my opinion, the husband might derive the most "therapeutic" benefit when in full understanding of how he is meeting his wife's own needs; fully agrees, in advance, to so assist his wife's well-being.
Since the DWC website is currently "Offline" (being updated and repaired), this is a direct link to "A Husband's Essay" on the Internet Archive (web.archive.org):
https://web.archive.org/web/2013/www.disciplinarywivesclub.com/Real%20People/peop.htm#HUSB-ESSAY
You may wish to show the essay to your husband so that he best understands. (You might also forego any prior spanking "enhancement methods" normally used for punishments; no reason for excess suffering, right?)
Not tooting my own horn here, but I always ‘own up’ to my infractions. It is one of the basic concepts we both agreed upon at the beginning of our 24/7 FLR with DD household. I am expected to inform her of any behavior earning a punishment or rule breaking. At the time of my confession, she determines if I am to be punished and how severe the punishment will be AND immediately administers it. Not confessing has an additional wrinkle. If I am aware of my offense and do not report to her, it is looked upon as my trying to hide it. My punishment at that time is either doubled or at least intensified. If I was unaware of the infraction, she will still spank, but there is no increase. In either case, the spanking is administered immediately. Like many others here, if it occurs away from home, I get another spanking when we return home.
ReplyDeleteWhen I wrote this post, I knew you would be one of the few to respond that you always own up. :-)
DeleteSpankedCowboy,
DeleteSame for J. and me regarding going home first! The only exception to that was when we were at the home of his military colleague who also received spankings from his wife prior to his passing a few years before J.: doing it there felt an interesting experience!
In our utopia, spanking would have been so normal that husbands and wives would go into a relatively seculded spot and get it over with, say a booth slightly larger than a toilet. I suppose the closest option for couples for the moment is rooms that you can rent by the hour.
L.
"L" wrote: "I suppose the closest option for couples for the moment is rooms that you can rent by the hour."
DeleteOR, using a quiet implement (e.g., "devil's braid") in one of the "family restrooms," like in Target, Cosco and many of the larger "venues" and department stores.
(I have fantasies of there being "husband spanking rooms" right next to those "baby changing rooms" we see so often ; -) .)
Donn,
DeleteAgreed, that definitely wouldn't be a bad idea! I have no doubt that J. would have valued such facilities!
And yes, quiet implements are always useful to have available! Is the devil's braid your favourite for that purpose?
L.
I can't say that I really "like" any of my wife's implements. However, the "devil's braid" is certainly as quiet as any of her canes.
DeleteI understand that Cane-Iac.com no longer has any stock of these. I don't know of any other place that has ever carried this implement.
Of course, a person can make their own, by making a somewhat loose "4-strand braid" of suitable flexible round stock. The one my wife had me make was braided from two old (round) computer power cables, then inserted into several layers of large heat-shrink-tubing to form the hand-grip.
Dan…. Oh no, have I become too predictable….lol
DeleteL… Being spanked away from home is interesting. I too have been spanked at the home of a friend. Rest rooms or secluded areas are used as well. Never saw and ‘husband spanking rooms’ but it is an interesting concept. She is never concerned with using a quiet implement. Even if we are not actually visible, she has no qualms about others knowing I am being spanked for discipline.
DeleteDonn, I like the sound of the devil's braid instrument you described! Hopefully, it will become more common! J. would have liked it (or not)!
DeleteSpankedCowboy, I chuckled at the "Husband Spanking Rooms" name idea! No doubt J. would have as well. What do you reckon they would be equipped with?
L.
L:
DeleteI looked around on the web yesterday, trying to find an alternative vendor. No luck!
However, I did find something similar, but longer and more "cane-like," at Adam's and Gillian's Whips store. They are called "Twisters:"
https://www.aswgt.com/twisters.html
(A little expensive, but seem to be of high quality, with very good mfgrs guarantee.)
Donn,
DeleteMany thanks for sharing that link! I have no doubt that it would have been good for J.! I have no doubt I would have enjoyed using it on his bottom that was always very spankable!
Have you come across any other interesting instruments?
L.
L. I would imagine there would be a bench of some type with restraints or wall cuffs. A hook or rod for clothing, no windows and a lockable door.
DeleteSpankedCowboy, I am aware of an interesting bench, but not sure if Dan is okay for me to share it.
DeleteDan, are you okay with me sharing a link to show what I mean?
L.
Fine by me.
DeleteL:
DeleteI don't know Dan's precise opinion, but there have been numerous cases of members here sharing links to other literature and photos of equipment.
So long as there is minimal (frontal) nudity, I don't think most members here, or Dan, would object to such a link. (I'm personally always interested in DD-"furniture.")
https://jzzo.com/gays-porn/3931508/Spanking-Central-Chris-True-Confessions.html I searched around for this. The subject covered isn't my thing, but it shows the bench I was referring to.
DeleteL.
L:
DeleteI don't think that link is working the way you intended. Do you have something "more direct" to the particular (individual) photo you want us to view?
Sorry, I entered ".htm" rather than ".html". Link now seems to work for that video depicting the bench. -- Donn
DeleteYes, I've seen an almost identical model before. Excellent positioning (raised and bent) for the "target". Only change I might make would be the addition of a "yoga mat" or some similar type of cushion; that wood can be very hard (and "splintery").
DeleteFor reference, the original design of that bench was made and distributed by "House of Correction" in California.
Professional dominatrix "Naturally Gin" has plans (photos and schematic drawings) for that original bench on her personal blog website "www.smilesandspanks.com".
The original bench was built from plywood panels and "2 x 4's". The original design was entirely "tongue in groove," allowing the bench to be assembled/disassembled, without tools, in roughly 3-4 minutes. The disasembled bench was flat-enough to slide under most "double size" beds (on wheeled metal frames).
Here is the link to those original plans and schematics:
https://www.smilesandspanks.com/home/spanking-bench-guide
Donn,
DeleteMany thanks. I've no doubt J. would have been enthused by this! Hopefully, other couples can benefit, even if it is too late for us. Do you know anyone who makes it?
L.
Nope, your video link and Gin's blog are the only two places I've ever seen that design.
DeleteMy general thought is that any member half-competent with a table-saw could probably cut-and-notch all of the various pieces in about 4-5 hours work.
Donn,
DeleteNot up my street! Have you got any urge to try this? Would you be able to build it easily? It would have been a sight to watch J. building something like this and enjoyable to use with him!
L.
Since my main infractions are bad attitude or slipping into depression, as opposed to doing something forbidden, reporting on myself is a little different.
ReplyDeleteIf my attitude is sliding toward bad and sarcastic she will step in an administer a thrashing to correct the situation.
If I am starting to slide into a depression, I am expected to self report as soon as I notice it. I will get a corrective thrashing to get my mind right. If I don't self report, and she calls it out, then I get the corrective thrashing and them a punishment thrashing for not reporting the depression. So I'm my situation feeling guilty never plays into it.
Dropped by the WordPress and left a note. Was not made to subscribe.
Yeah, it does seem like if your primary problem is an internal mental or emotional state, self-reporting would be the only way to deal with it.
DeleteThanks for stopping by the WP site. One issue I'm finding is it seems to attract a lot more traffic from the Master-slave, Femdom crowd. I've had to delete several comments a day.
Not surprised that you would get some comments from the M/S femdom. Not sure how to filter them out...
DeleteLate to comment on this topic but so far the agreement that I will ‘own up’ to misbehaving has improved my behaviour. It is not so much the act of owning up that has invoked the change but more the thought of having to own up. That thought has invaded my mind and has helped my stop saying the ‘thing’ or displaying the attitude that so often gets me into trouble. My one instance or owning up was off the scale uncomfortable and so appears to be having a stronger preventative effect than previous fear of potential spanking… TB
ReplyDeleteI'm having some similar effects from our check-ins (though we had to cancel last week's because I was out dealing with weather-related plumbing problems at our vacation place). Where it really seems to be changing things are on my To-Do list. While 90% of the things on there have nothing at all to do with Anne, just knowing that I will have to justify too much inaction is keeping me checking some bigger items off the list.
Delete