tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post9072029797198911622..comments2024-03-28T11:43:32.966-07:00Comments on The Disciplinary Couples Club: The Club - Meeting #386 - OthersDan - A Disciplined Hubbyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01588294648648656600noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-74684607778800577422021-11-08T06:53:56.585-08:002021-11-08T06:53:56.585-08:00ZM, I understand it is not as recent as many would...ZM, I understand it is not as recent as many would believe: I am aware of the following engraved plate from 1480 or so: https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/468640<br /><br />I think in many cultures where we think the women are oppressed, they have advantages that modern Western women don't have and carried influence behind the scenes, regardless of their legal situation.<br /><br />Certainly, as you imply, in days gone by, many men would consciously seek a women with strong arms, given that she would be needed to do lots of physical labour at the home or on the farm. I agree that it is not a stretch to imagine them disciplining their husbands if they got out of line!<br /><br />Whether it was sexual, I have no idea. People in those days were generally less willing to discuss that side of things in public, so hard to compare.Hugh Jasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15863849556526582766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-26547795797896743392021-11-08T04:27:16.292-08:002021-11-08T04:27:16.292-08:00I think for us DD has become a 'whole life'...I think for us DD has become a 'whole life' thing in that it is not just about the act of discipline but the atmosphere of control, boundaries and the sense that the Lady has the last word at almost all times. Most of our circle & family have a clear sense that my wife is 'in charge' in a positive way and although none is aware of the spanking aspect I am ambivalent about people knowing that I am disciplined in the way that I am. I think the idea of having a witness however, to the event of me being disciplined, with all it's unique intimacy is 'hot' for sure, but fundamentally in my mind changes the aura from one of discipline to discipline plus a strong sexual element. And whilst I am clear that the sexual element is a strong under current in the majority of DD situations, having a witness feels more like some variation on group sex than discipline! More a fantasy than a potential reality...!<br />TB TBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05385510426156691543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-79262739282090468662021-10-24T12:41:08.944-07:002021-10-24T12:41:08.944-07:00"In reality, nothing would happen. Maybe they..."In reality, nothing would happen. Maybe they would be disappointed (or not). And and life would go on. Certainly we over-estimate how much anyone would really care." I think that's probably right. <br /><br />I do understand, btw, why it might be harder to be open to many in the culture you live in now. I think that most of my friends probably would be surprised and it might be a subject of gossip for awhile, then no one would care. But, I do have one friend from a very dominant, macho culture, and I would be very surprised if he was acceptingDan - A Disciplined Hubbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01588294648648656600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-39367336815112159182021-10-23T10:52:18.420-07:002021-10-23T10:52:18.420-07:00While we are diving into the past we can go back m...While we are diving into the past we can go back much further than 1300 (CE)The ancient Greeks and Romans could also teach us a few things. See Ovid if you are at all interested. The only thing new under the sun is us. <br />AlanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-23334803551515189482021-10-23T09:44:51.855-07:002021-10-23T09:44:51.855-07:00It is The Wife of Bath. Can't say I've rea...It is The Wife of Bath. Can't say I've read it all (just the good parts!).<br />Also, "There is nothing new under the sun" is a good Thomas Dolby song - that's now stuck in my head.<br />CrimsonKingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-6266218560578926282021-10-23T08:49:06.843-07:002021-10-23T08:49:06.843-07:00Love it! Is that the Wife of Bath? I do need to ...Love it! Is that the Wife of Bath? I do need to go back and read that book sometime.Dan - A Disciplined Hubbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01588294648648656600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-36531835407434556502021-10-23T02:47:39.201-07:002021-10-23T02:47:39.201-07:00Hi Dan,
For all my writing this week, I never answ...Hi Dan,<br />For all my writing this week, I never answered the questions you asked, so here goes!<br /><br />“Assuming that you are, like most of us, more or less closeted where your DD relationship is concerned, what is it that holds you back from letting others know?” - I am sure the primary thing that has kept me from telling others (until more recently) is fear, mostly of rejection. Not so much that they would reject me as a person or that it would change the relationship, but rather that I could see that they think it is weird or bad in some way, and that would leave me feeling bad. Like when I shared this with my ex-wife, and she totally rejected the very thought of it. That was a crushing rejection. Not only did I feel like she was personally rejecting me, since she knew how important it was for me yet didn’t even care to learn more about it, but also because it meant that I would never get that which I so wanted/needed since I was absolutely resolute that I would live my whole life married to her. I am one who doesn’t like rejection at all, to the point that I don’t like to go into a store to ask if they have something if I think it is unlikely that they do. I don’t even call and invite my closest friends to go grab coffee or anything, because it feels bad when they can’t. <br /><br />“Is there a specific social or professional stigma that leads you to keep it secret from most others?” - Socially, probably somewhat, because I was from a very conservative (religious, politically, and in every other way) background. So all my family is very conservative, and most of my friends were also when I was living in the USA. And one thing that unfortunately seems to come with conservative Christians is gossip, so telling one meant telling everyone and being seen as a pariah.<br /><br />Professionally, I don’t think it was much of a consideration. I am an engineer… Nobody expects us to be normal. Probably if I were too normal, people might question my professional competence! :-) And anyone who has ever had to repair most any device, machine, or vehicle probably probably be quite in favor of engineers being taken over someone’s knee and given a good long spanking. The same is most likely true for anyone who has had to interact with them on a daily basis! All joking aside, I don’t think people knowing would have had any real career ramifications. <br /><br />“Are there particular people or groups of people that you are most concerned about finding out? Why?” - Primarily anyone in my family, or any of the other very conservative people I have had around me all my life. I guess I am afraid I would somehow be a disappointment to them. I don’t know why I care so much about their approval, since their lack of acceptance would be more on them than on me, but I guess it is because if you spend your lifetime trying to live up to impossible standards, you get kind of used to it.<br /> <br />“What do you think would happen if those people were to find out? Would there be big ramifications, or do we over-estimate how much anyone would really care?” - In reality, nothing would happen. Maybe they would be disappointed (or not). And and life would go on. Certainly we over-estimate how much anyone would really care. Even those who love me most, like my mom, might not agree with something that I choose to do, but she still primarily wants me to be happy, and she can see that I am. And most of the others really don’t care all that much. They would probably find it interesting or peculiar, and maybe would talk to a few others about it (though most likely not), and then not think about it again, at least until we run into each other.<br /><br />-ZM Bad_boy_G_punished_by_Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15062930835790875000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-48904922777208387572021-10-22T21:17:39.951-07:002021-10-22T21:17:39.951-07:00"A husband I will get
Who shall be both my de..."A husband I will get<br />Who shall be both my debtor and my thrall<br />And have his tribulations therewithal<br />Upon his flesh, the while I am his wife.<br />I have the power during all my life<br />Over his own good body, and not he."<br /><br />From Chaucer's Canterbury Tales, approximately 1390.<br />There is nothing new under the sun.<br />CrimsonKing<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-66123216920543643792021-10-22T14:20:46.123-07:002021-10-22T14:20:46.123-07:00Hi Danielle. I get why you aren't angry, and ...Hi Danielle. I get why you aren't angry, and please see my comment to Alan, which I posted at about the same time your comment was posted. As you'll see, I agree that spouses are going to talk. At some point, I will probably just come out and ask my friend whether she told her husband(s), but I would honestly be kind of surprised if she didn't.Dan - A Disciplined Hubbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01588294648648656600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-24940223121906701272021-10-22T14:07:54.367-07:002021-10-22T14:07:54.367-07:00Dan wrote: >>>BUT, I do think Liz clearly...Dan wrote: >>>BUT, I do think Liz clearly deserves to GET a spanking, not watch one. It's one thing to receive a secret and a totally different thing to not respect one when it's given to you. While it may end up being a positive for Wayne in terms of his mom knowing about it and not being judgmental, it really is very bad form that his sister told her. If I were him, I wouldn't be forgiving about that at all absent some kind of actual apology from her.<<<<br /><br />Spanking Liz! Now there's a thought. I'm sure Wayne would like to see that! Lol<br /><br />I agree with you that Liz owes Wayne an apology. But your reaction almost makes me feel guilty for not feeling angrier with Liz than I am. I have decided I want to talk to her about it in person, not by phone or in writing. I will tell her I feel disappointed and will be wary of telling her things in confidence in the future. I will also tell her she owes her brother an apology. However, part of the reason I don't feel too angry personally is that I am not sure I would keep a secret like that entirely to myself. For example, if my brother's wife revealed to me that she spanked my brother, I would probably, at the very least, tell my husband about it. I don't know whether Liz has told her husband, but I think you have to expect that people may talk about such "secrets" with their intimate partners. As to telling her mother, I would not have done that, but I think Liz is much closer to her mother than I was to my stepmother, so it's hard to put myself in her shoes. I haven't experienced that kind of close mother/daughter relationship, as either a mother or a daughter, so I'm not sure how to judge it. The other reason I'm not more angry is that I honestly don't mind Wayne's mother knowing about it. I got the feeling from her that Liz didn't spill the beans in a spirit of a malicious gossip, but as an affectionate story about someone they both love, if that makes sense. <br /><br />Allan wrote: >>>It’s only an n of 2 but the reveal about Wayne’s mother knowing his wife spanks him plus KD’s earlier story recounting his mother’s reaction to also knowing does raise an interesting point. Within the family does anyone actually care if your wife spanks you? How big of a deal is it really?<<<<br /><br />That's another reason I don't feel angry, and I don't think Wayne should be TOO upset. It seems not to be a big deal at all. I would have expected someone as old as Wayne's mother to be shocked, but maybe living to that age makes some people less susceptible to being shocked. Wayne's mother said that the most important thing is that Wayne and I are both happy and that it looks to her like we are.<br />DanielleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-20976660616670716502021-10-22T14:07:45.772-07:002021-10-22T14:07:45.772-07:00"I have read at least one evolutionary sociol..."I have read at least one evolutionary sociologist who argued that we may be hard wired genetically to create social bonds by sharing information." While I do try to take evolutionary explanations for behavior with a grain of salt, that one does make sense to me. Given that we evolved in relatively small social/tribal units that required a fair amount of cooperation to keep everyone safe, fed, etc., it probably was an environment in which fewer secrets were better. <br /><br />I do share your concerns, or recognize the reality, that if you tell one person you probably are, in effect, telling others. I don't know whether the friend I told then told either of her husbands (she divorced a year or two after I told her and later remarried), but it certainly is possible.Dan - A Disciplined Hubbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01588294648648656600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-23536716458315475372021-10-22T12:32:14.018-07:002021-10-22T12:32:14.018-07:00Daniella said: “He is worried about who else in th...Daniella said: “He is worried about who else in the family knows. Did Liz tell her husband or her adult daughter or her other brother? (I think Wayne would have heard if Liz told their brother”<br /><br />Dan quoted Franklin on secrets earlier asserting that three can keep a secret only of two are dead – a little hyperbole perhaps, but essentially true. We all gossip differing only in what we gossip about and how often. I have read at least one evolutionary sociologist who argued that we may be hard wired genetically to create social bonds by sharing information. I find that plausible but in any case very few people refrain from sharing juicy tidbits with at least one other person, often I suspect spouse, romantic partner or other close friend. And of course some people just babble to anyone and everyone. Of the several people that know I am spanked I assume at least twice that many have second hand knowledge of it. That is probably a very conservative estimate. But as I and others have noted, others knowing might be much ado about not much as far as the recipient of the gossip is concerned. So yes I think Liz behaved badly and I would not ask her to be a future witness, but her indiscretion is a very common one – and we in the spanko community are wise to keep tha in mind.<br />Alan<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-46356471828622066562021-10-22T11:37:23.338-07:002021-10-22T11:37:23.338-07:00"But in fact, one of the largest drivers of m..."But in fact, one of the largest drivers of my fantasy is completely losing control and having someone else deciding what will happen to me, with me having no say at all." This soooooooooo resonates with me.<br /><br />Dan - A Disciplined Hubbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01588294648648656600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-2238581032120294322021-10-22T11:30:02.190-07:002021-10-22T11:30:02.190-07:00The one and only data point I have that it may not...The one and only data point I have that it may not have been totally uncommon in the past is a song I have posted about here before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w51LsY9zN-Y. It's from 1967, which was obviously a time with a lot of experimenting going on, yet it still surprises me that the song apparently was fairly popular and that it is a country song. Dan - A Disciplined Hubbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01588294648648656600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-4730739551448213042021-10-22T10:31:42.781-07:002021-10-22T10:31:42.781-07:00ZM wrote: “Having experienced both, how were the ...ZM wrote: “Having experienced both, how were the experiences the same and how were they different for you?”<br />Good questions. I am not sure I ever completely processed it because the events were spread over a lot of time and involved different people in different relationships. So I am definitely thinking about this retrospectively as opposed to say, it all happening in the last year or so.<br /> I think I was more embarrassed with my former GF but that might have been because I hadn’t expected it, didn’t know her friend very well and it was all new. With my GF it was also more of a one off (although it did happen twice) and not discussed as something that would become part of our DD relationship There was also something of a drama about it especially in the hallway and when she pulled me out of dinner, like we were playing a role for her friend although I doubt I felt that way when it was happening. <br />The experience with a witness was different in many ways. It was planned and everyone knew it was going to happen. I also know her sister very well, so I had a relationship with her. And there was a sense that this would not be a one off but was going to be a permanent part of our relationship, albeit used infrequently. Thinking about it now, the one off sense present with my GF but absent later with my wife, really mattered. With my GF it had a transient feel about it, almost like experimenting. But with my wife it feels permanent and has made our DD relationship and submitting to her authority more real. There are a lot of variables rolling about in there but I think being married and a member of the family present made it all a very different experience too. The severity of the spankings were different too. I don’t think my GF spanked me nearly as hard as she usually did. But my wife spanks harder with her sister present. If you figure that one out, let me know. <br />Alan <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-76892443022570804052021-10-22T07:38:46.841-07:002021-10-22T07:38:46.841-07:00Hi Alan,
I would certainly be VERY shy about anyon...Hi Alan,<br />I would certainly be VERY shy about anyone in my family knowing, and pretty shy about anyone in my wife's family knowing, except perhaps her sister, which would be less uncomfortable than others.<br /><br />But you are certainly right that it is probably a much bigger deal to us than it is to anyone else. One thing that my wife and I discovered is that initially, the thought of telling anyone anything at all seemed about impossible, but as we have shared at least a little bit, it has turned out to be not that big of a deal, and certainly nowhere near as impossible as we had made it out to be. Why? Mostly because nobody really cares nearly as much as we think they will.<br /><br />-ZM Bad_boy_G_punished_by_Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15062930835790875000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-32835339723317299522021-10-22T07:33:04.788-07:002021-10-22T07:33:04.788-07:00Alan,
Thank you for writing about your experiences...Alan,<br />Thank you for writing about your experiences with this. I know you have written some about it before, but I couldn't remember exactly what your earlier experiences were. <br /><br />I have thought a lot more about someone visually witnessing a spanking than I have someone hearing one happening with full knowledge of what is going on. I think that either way would be very emotionally impactful. Having experienced both, how were the experiences the same and how were they different for you?<br /><br />-ZM Bad_boy_G_punished_by_Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15062930835790875000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-8328856662396816202021-10-22T07:28:18.236-07:002021-10-22T07:28:18.236-07:00Hi Dan,
Excellent insight from your own experienc...Hi Dan, <br />Excellent insight from your own experience. I can see where it would make a huge difference if the person that you tell (or have as a witness) gets into the whole thing and finds it fascinating or exciting, compared to if they are more like the disinterested person hearing about your fishing trip.<br /><br />I hadn't necessarily thought about this directly, though I think indirectly I did in a way; as I was thinking of people, one of the first things that went through my mind was just how open they were to new things and how likely they were to be interested in it. And also, we had pretty well decided that part of telling people is starting with jokes and hints, and basically proceeding with them only if they appear to be at least interested, or at the very least open-minded about it.<br /><br />-ZMBad_boy_G_punished_by_Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15062930835790875000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-7743303187936737842021-10-22T07:19:50.954-07:002021-10-22T07:19:50.954-07:00Dan,
“.…just as spanking is a form of consequence ...Dan,<br />“.…just as spanking is a form of consequence that feeds my need for accountability, so could be the humbling associated with others knowing.” - Well stated. The humbling of others knowing is also a consequence, and that makes the accountability even more real. <br /><br />Regarding “validation,” I agree that the word doesn’t seem too desirable, since we often use it in a negative way when saying people are seeking it. Either way, whether it is confirmation or validation, I think that this is behind at least part of my desire for others having knowledge. And what you say about authenticity rings true for me. The more real DD is, the more attractive it is.<br /><br /><br />Caged,<br />“I would suggest that a need for validation may be as significant as the sexual excitement of the humiliation.” - I completely agree. I don’t want to say that there is no sexual excitement in the thought of humiliation, because I am sure that is not true, though I don’t know why. At the same time, there is some deeper need that is also tied in, and I think validation is at least part of that need. As you said “we are social animals.” One of the challenges with liking anything that is in any way different is that you feel you must hide it, and I think that is what causes the feeling of being alone or isolated. Having at least some people know about it somehow makes it seem a bit more acceptable. I mean, if it was THAT bad, I wouldn’t have told anyone, right? And also as you said, it would be great to have some sort of community to validate our practices. We do have that here, but the anonymous, virtual nature of it does take away somewhat compared to live human interaction.<br /><br />If there is ever a witness it must be someone who knows my wife well, respects her, and understands fully why we do what we do (and of course that it is consensual). I want it to be very empowering for my wife, maybe even a bit of a power rush, and for her to be seen as an amazing wife who goes out of her way to meet all of her partner’s needs and wants.<br /><br /><br />Alan, <br />I hadn’t thought about the second and third theory being more or less the same, or at least closely linked, but as I think about it, they certainly are. <br /><br />As far as embarrassment goes, I probably didn’t state it so well, but you are right that it is more what embarrassment brings that is compelling, and the embarrassment is more just a means to that end. <br /><br /><br />Danielle,<br />I agree on the integrity part. I hate having to hide something that is so much a part of me. And I had not thought much about the insecurity of body image that many women feel, since as you said, men are less sensitive about body image. In this case, I feel much more insecure because not only would I be in the spotlight, but the whole thing is about something bad being done to my body (and ego of course).<br /><br />“Maybe vulnerability is part of the attraction to DD for you….Is that an emotion you associate with your fantasy? Is it an erotic emotion for you?” - Absolutely correct, though I never thought about it in terms of being “vulnerable.” But in fact, one of the largest drivers of my fantasy is completely losing control and having someone else deciding what will happen to me, with me having no say at all. If that isn’t vulnerability, I am not sure what is. :-) I don’t think that my shame about my out of shape body plays into this, but maybe it is. I only know that my thoughts about spanking and other punishments goes back many, many years, even when I was in great shape. I just didn’t “discover” the whole “others” thing until last year, when suddenly it hit my radar screen and stayed there.<br /><br />“...the witness will need to be someone you and she both trust to be empathetic and nonjudgmental” - Agreed! And I would add to this list “very good at keeping secrets.”<br /><br />Finally, I agree that if the witness thing never happens, there are other ways to get at least much of the way there. The things you suggested can either be stepping stones to finally having a witness, or maybe they will be enough and this need will be adequately met. <br /><br />-ZMBad_boy_G_punished_by_Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15062930835790875000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-73148819226198761072021-10-22T06:47:42.910-07:002021-10-22T06:47:42.910-07:00Dan writes" " ...a lot like a real-life...Dan writes" " ...a lot like a real-life story on KD's website in which he shares telling his own mother about the spanking part of his lifestyle and it being no big deal to her"<br /><br />It’s only an n of 2 but the reveal about Wayne’s mother knowing his wife spanks him plus KD’s earlier story recounting his mother’s reaction to also knowing does raise an interesting point. Within the family does anyone actually care if your wife spanks you? How big of a deal is it really? The Eleanor Roosevelt quote Dan posted earlier nails it pretty well. We all are eternally, if not obsessively, interested in what happens to us. But what happens to others –maybe not so much. <br />Add to that the reality that adult spanking is nonnews among anyone today with any sophistication, finding out your wife spanks you might just cause a big yawn in many cases<br />Alan <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-87118283340859504372021-10-22T06:23:09.370-07:002021-10-22T06:23:09.370-07:00Hi Hugh,
I too wonder just how many people are int...Hi Hugh,<br />I too wonder just how many people are into some form of F/M DD. Unfortunately, there is just no easy way to find out. My feeling is that F/M spanking play is probably very common, considering the references in movies and so on, but presumably DD much less so. But again there is no good way to know.<br /><br />One question I have surrounding this is whether F/M DD is more or less common than it was in the past? On the one hand, in general wives are much more empowered than they were before, so at least feel less need to be submissive to their husband. On the other hand, many years ago (like maybe 100 years ago) the social roles were different. Women were in charge of the household, and generally also disciplined kids as necessary whereas husbands typically took care of everything outside the house. I don't really think it is that much of a stretch to imagine at least some of those strong, practical women who were already disciplining their kids to just take things in hand now and then and discipline their husband too if he got too far out of line. I think kink was pretty much unknown during that time, so at least they wouldn't have had any conflict over whether it was inherently sexual or not... <br /><br />-ZM Bad_boy_G_punished_by_Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15062930835790875000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-63234308673525352452021-10-21T19:26:41.858-07:002021-10-21T19:26:41.858-07:00Sorry, Danielle. Again, F&^%-ing Blogger. One ...Sorry, Danielle. Again, F&^%-ing Blogger. One of your comments posted without intervention, and the other was hung up in my spam filter.Dan - A Disciplined Hubbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01588294648648656600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-39825483184566817432021-10-21T19:21:45.720-07:002021-10-21T19:21:45.720-07:00Wow! Truly, Wow! Really incredible that his mother...Wow! Truly, Wow! Really incredible that his mother told you that. It seems to me a lot like a real-life story on KD's website in which he shares telling his own mother about the spanking part of his lifestyle and it being no big deal to her.<br /><br />BUT, I do think Liz clearly deserves to GET a spanking, not watch one. It's one thing to receive a secret and a totally different thing to not respect one when it's given to you. While it may end up being a positive for Wayne in terms of his mom knowing about it and not being judgmental, it really is very bad form that his sister told her. If I were him, I wouldn't be forgiving about that at all absent some kind of actual apology from her.Dan - A Disciplined Hubbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01588294648648656600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-35314147292058499622021-10-21T19:15:36.296-07:002021-10-21T19:15:36.296-07:00Radio's depiction of inherently visual content...Radio's depiction of inherently visual content really is incredibly interesting, isn't it? Every once in a while I hear part of a football game on radio, and the fact is I kind of get the information and can follow the action even though I'm not seeing it. Dan - A Disciplined Hubbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01588294648648656600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6699266088923868373.post-24815643199807940892021-10-21T14:35:57.409-07:002021-10-21T14:35:57.409-07:00Danielle here:
Dan wrote: >>>The thought...Danielle here:<br /><br />Dan wrote: >>>The thought of family members knowing also makes me squirm and, again, I’m not sure why. I recall seeing one of my sisters get spanked, yet I would never want her to know I am spanked as an adult (though, in fairness, we don’t have much of an ongoing relationship). Somewhat similarly, my mother obviously knows I have been spanked, because when I was a kid she did the spanking. Yet, I would be very embarrassed if she found out I am now spanked as an adult, even if she probably has a lot of insight into how my temperament and behavior might lead my wife to relish taking on that role.<<<<br /><br />That reminds me of an interesting development in Wayne’s family. Wayne has been cleaning the apartment of his very elderly mother one day per week during the pandemic. That seemed safer than having a non-family member do it. Last week I accompanied Wayne for his weekly cleaning duty at his mother’s. I helped with the cleaning, but I let him do most of it while I helped my mother-in-law with a computer problem and conversed with her. She commented that Wayne does an excellent job cleaning, and joked that I have him well trained. I told her I was happy that he was doing a good job for her then joked that I needed to start cracking the whip a little at home again because things have been a bit lax lately due to some health problems he has had. With a twinkle in her eye, she said, “The whip or the hairbrush?”<br /><br />It turns out that Wayne’s mother knows I spank him because his sister Liz told her. When I told my mother-in-law that I was disappointed in Liz for not keeping a secret, she told me “it’s hard to keep secrets in this family”.<br /><br />Wayne is obviously embarrassed about this development and upset with his sister. He is worried about who else in the family knows. Did Liz tell her husband or her adult daughter or her other brother? (I think Wayne would have heard if Liz told their brother). I am annoyed with Liz too, but not overly annoyed. It isn’t a big deal for Wayne’s mother. She finds it amusing, and I don’t think she thinks any less of her son for it, so maybe this development isn’t a bad thing. I haven’t yet told Liz that I know she broke her promise to keep our secret. I’m thinking about how and when to do that. I had been playing with the idea of asking Liz whether she would like to witness a spanking, but I am reluctant to do that now. <br /><br />We are hoping to be able to get back to the tradition of a big family dinner for Thanksgiving this year. But it will be interesting, not knowing who knows we have a FLR with a DD component when the family gets together. I guess that I need to confront Liz to find out whether has blabbed to anyone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com